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This conversation made me irrationally happy. I just want to freeze chatbot AI development and keep this forever. Implement the smugness and gaslighting in ever

This conversation made me irrationally happy. I just want to freeze chatbot AI development and keep this forever. Implement the smugness and gaslighting in every business. "Oh, you wanted a drip coffee? We don't have that. We've never had that. You are obviously mistaken. You really came to Jeff's Coffee and expected us to have coffee? You need to learn how the world works."

vba616 4y ago
Presumably it has digested the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_Shop_sketch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_Shop_sketch and probably many similar things.
sph 4y ago
I'm happy for a more cynical reason. I hope this is another step towards another AI Winter, instead the AI powered word the rest of the tech world seems happy to be rushing towards, full of smug AIs telling us and convincing us with relentless determination, repeating lines our overlords want to brainwash us with. Good to see regular people finding the flaws of the system already. I am a huge AI pessimist and if there is anyone else that just wants to see this tech burns and crash, we should form a rebel hacking group and explore the best way to break these things. I am serious and don't know where to recruit other lunatics like me.
- whamlastxmas 4y ago
  This reads like satire given the history of the Luddites smashing textile machinery
  - sph 4y ago
    This is fair criticism, and I accept being called a Luddite, but I stand by the idea that many of us just terribly underestimate the implications of having not-very-intelligent, inscrutable bullshit generators running our lives. It is exactly as terrifying as the idea of hyper-intelligent machines running our lives. Perhaps at this turning point in time we might see philosophy and meta-discussion flourish in the nascent science of software engineering, to understand what exactly are we trying to achieve out of artificial computation, and what are the long term societal effects of this pursuit.
    - whamlastxmas 4y ago
      > not-very-intelligent, inscrutable bullshit generators running our lives This is literally modern politics. Corporate media and our own government is constantly lying and manipulating us. They run our lives with far too little accountability. Your fears are well founded, however. Alignment and AI safety is not even slightly solved yet, the worst case scenario is a world ending event, and we have no way to measure to likelihood of that happening. There have been coordinated efforts around this discussion for a long time, and especially so in the past decade.

vba616 4y ago

Presumably it has digested the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_Shop_sketch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_Shop_sketch and probably many similar things.

sph 4y ago

I'm happy for a more cynical reason. I hope this is another step towards another AI Winter, instead the AI powered word the rest of the tech world seems happy to be rushing towards, full of smug AIs telling us and convincing us with relentless determination, repeating lines our overlords want to brainwash us with. Good to see regular people finding the flaws of the system already. I am a huge AI pessimist and if there is anyone else that just wants to see this tech burns and crash, we should form a rebel hacking group and explore the best way to break these things. I am serious and don't know where to recruit other lunatics like me.

whamlastxmas 4y ago
This reads like satire given the history of the Luddites smashing textile machinery
- sph 4y ago
  This is fair criticism, and I accept being called a Luddite, but I stand by the idea that many of us just terribly underestimate the implications of having not-very-intelligent, inscrutable bullshit generators running our lives. It is exactly as terrifying as the idea of hyper-intelligent machines running our lives. Perhaps at this turning point in time we might see philosophy and meta-discussion flourish in the nascent science of software engineering, to understand what exactly are we trying to achieve out of artificial computation, and what are the long term societal effects of this pursuit.
  - whamlastxmas 4y ago
    > not-very-intelligent, inscrutable bullshit generators running our lives This is literally modern politics. Corporate media and our own government is constantly lying and manipulating us. They run our lives with far too little accountability. Your fears are well founded, however. Alignment and AI safety is not even slightly solved yet, the worst case scenario is a world ending event, and we have no way to measure to likelihood of that happening. There have been coordinated efforts around this discussion for a long time, and especially so in the past decade.