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It can provide legal cover for invading countries… Bosnia, Iraq etc. The UN courts can issue judgements… Human Rights Courts: e.g. Slobodan Milosovic, Radavan

by tezza 4y ago

It can provide legal cover for invading countries… Bosnia, Iraq etc. The UN courts can issue judgements… Human Rights Courts: e.g. Slobodan Milosovic, Radavan Kardzich etc A lot of the global treaties are kicked around there They also enforce peace zones (poorly) like Lebanon, Israel demilitarised zone. They coordinate aid programs UNRWA etc

s1artibartfast 4y ago
I don't think legal cover is the right term. My understanding that basically all nations view their domestic laws as higher than the UN. UN decisions are more like a veil or facade of moral Authority
- credit_guy 4y ago
  I think you might have a typo: "you and decisions" may mean "UN decisions".
- wolverine876 4y ago
  The UN is a powerful, active international organization. If you aren't aware of that, you don't know what you are talking about. It's certainly limited in many ways and imperfect, but it transforms international affairs, freedom, and human rights. Ignorant, cynical claims on the the Internet do a lot of harm to real people, by tearing down valuable things that people need.
- xpe 4y ago
  > UN decisions are more like a veil or facade of moral Authority Not so; "veil" or "facade" implies fakeness or concealment. The U.N. does not hide its mission or its position on human rights. > One of the great achievements of the United Nations is the creation of a comprehensive body of human rights law—a universal and internationally protected code to which all nations can subscribe and all people aspire. The United Nations has defined a broad range of internationally accepted rights, including civil, cultural, economic, political and social rights. It has also established mechanisms to promote and protect these rights and to assist states in carrying out their responsibilities. [1] The lack of consensus and consistency is an ongoing challenge, sure, but it doesn't make the goals fake. Countries are flawed and have competing interests, but it is important to nudge the world in a better direction. [1] https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/human-rights https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/human-rights
- MichaelZuo 4y ago
  The UNSC has demonstrated its ability to impose force on some countries, when the permanent five agree.
luma 4y ago
So the UN is a way for powerful countries to justify taking action against less powerful countries if other powerful countries kinda agree to it.
- echelon 4y ago
  Of course. It's all to appease the major powers to not use their nukes. To a degree, it also gives the lesser players a voice to feel heard so that they continue to participate in the economic system that benefits the big players. Again, this keeps the big players from acting unilaterally, imperialistically, etc. in a way that threatens the use of nukes. A side benefit is that this lets the bigger players test their geopolitical strategies without dangerous surprises. If tensions can be expressed and gently eased into a final state, that prevents a flash bang. It's kept us from having another world war. Or nuclear exchange. Here's hoping we keep it up.

by tezza 4y ago

s1artibartfast 4y ago

I don't think legal cover is the right term. My understanding that basically all nations view their domestic laws as higher than the UN. UN decisions are more like a veil or facade of moral Authority

credit_guy 4y ago
I think you might have a typo: "you and decisions" may mean "UN decisions".
wolverine876 4y ago
The UN is a powerful, active international organization. If you aren't aware of that, you don't know what you are talking about. It's certainly limited in many ways and imperfect, but it transforms international affairs, freedom, and human rights. Ignorant, cynical claims on the the Internet do a lot of harm to real people, by tearing down valuable things that people need.
xpe 4y ago
> UN decisions are more like a veil or facade of moral Authority Not so; "veil" or "facade" implies fakeness or concealment. The U.N. does not hide its mission or its position on human rights. > One of the great achievements of the United Nations is the creation of a comprehensive body of human rights law—a universal and internationally protected code to which all nations can subscribe and all people aspire. The United Nations has defined a broad range of internationally accepted rights, including civil, cultural, economic, political and social rights. It has also established mechanisms to promote and protect these rights and to assist states in carrying out their responsibilities. [1] The lack of consensus and consistency is an ongoing challenge, sure, but it doesn't make the goals fake. Countries are flawed and have competing interests, but it is important to nudge the world in a better direction. [1] https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/human-rights https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/human-rights
MichaelZuo 4y ago
The UNSC has demonstrated its ability to impose force on some countries, when the permanent five agree.

luma 4y ago

So the UN is a way for powerful countries to justify taking action against less powerful countries if other powerful countries kinda agree to it.

echelon 4y ago
Of course. It's all to appease the major powers to not use their nukes. To a degree, it also gives the lesser players a voice to feel heard so that they continue to participate in the economic system that benefits the big players. Again, this keeps the big players from acting unilaterally, imperialistically, etc. in a way that threatens the use of nukes. A side benefit is that this lets the bigger players test their geopolitical strategies without dangerous surprises. If tensions can be expressed and gently eased into a final state, that prevents a flash bang. It's kept us from having another world war. Or nuclear exchange. Here's hoping we keep it up.