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This seems mostly right. But ChatGPT also can make it a lot easier to learn if one wants to learn. But I think that you need to be able to critically evaluate i

by kledru 4y ago

This seems mostly right. But ChatGPT also can make it a lot easier to learn if one wants to learn. But I think that you need to be able to critically evaluate it's output for that. And to formulate your ideas on some level. If one never obtains those skills, perhaps learning with chatGPT won't be of much use.

elforce002 4y ago
I beg to differ. You can try to learn, sure, but it's tricky, to say the least. You learn from people with years of XP in the subject, many references, among other things. The knowledge you gain from them is vetted by pretty much the entire scientific community. If you're not an expert in any field, chatGPT can give you any answer and you'll take it as good and valid. That's a dangerous precedent there. And just in case you said: "you can double check what chatGPT is throwing at me", well, that's wishful thinking. People hardly go the extra mile, less of all, when studying is involved. It's difficult to just concentrate in one subject, let alone the whole curriculum, and that's with guidance. What type of guidance does chatGPT offer? How are you going to measure the student? If he/she fails, what are the options? There are lots of questions to be answered before we incorporate chatGPT the the current education system. I'm not saying we couldn't do it, I'm just saying that while tech is there to help us, this time around is dangerous because it can do more harm than good, and could, in fact, set humanity back if mishandled.
- ausbah 4y ago
  I think the value that chatgpt could (emphasis on could) provide as a learning tool is the same value that a repl provides to coding, instant feedback in a playground environment. I think it would be immensely useful or anyone learning anything to be able to say "I don't stand specific thing based on prior conversation please elaborate", or "give me a new example of specific thing" or "explain my why my thought process about X thing is wrong". would really boost engagement with learning a think by lowering the barrier to getting stuck on something, if all the BSing and incorrect info it has could be worked out

by kledru 4y ago

elforce002 4y ago

I beg to differ. You can try to learn, sure, but it's tricky, to say the least. You learn from people with years of XP in the subject, many references, among other things. The knowledge you gain from them is vetted by pretty much the entire scientific community. If you're not an expert in any field, chatGPT can give you any answer and you'll take it as good and valid. That's a dangerous precedent there. And just in case you said: "you can double check what chatGPT is throwing at me", well, that's wishful thinking. People hardly go the extra mile, less of all, when studying is involved. It's difficult to just concentrate in one subject, let alone the whole curriculum, and that's with guidance. What type of guidance does chatGPT offer? How are you going to measure the student? If he/she fails, what are the options? There are lots of questions to be answered before we incorporate chatGPT the the current education system. I'm not saying we couldn't do it, I'm just saying that while tech is there to help us, this time around is dangerous because it can do more harm than good, and could, in fact, set humanity back if mishandled.

ausbah 4y ago
I think the value that chatgpt could (emphasis on could) provide as a learning tool is the same value that a repl provides to coding, instant feedback in a playground environment. I think it would be immensely useful or anyone learning anything to be able to say "I don't stand specific thing based on prior conversation please elaborate", or "give me a new example of specific thing" or "explain my why my thought process about X thing is wrong". would really boost engagement with learning a think by lowering the barrier to getting stuck on something, if all the BSing and incorrect info it has could be worked out