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Cyberpunk is related because at launch it was shoving crapware out the door. It actually worked mostly fine on my PC, so its not a personal thing. I love the ga

Cyberpunk is related because at launch it was shoving crapware out the door. It actually worked mostly fine on my PC, so its not a personal thing. I love the game. It's the business practice of sending the customer their boots without the sole and toe box sewn together then telling them they get most of the experience earlier this way and theyll stitch it together in a month if they have the time. I agree it will age well, particularly with the right improvements.

Ygg2 4y ago
It's caused by ability to patch game later and rushing product to reach impossible deadline on an impossible configuration. Which is only tangentially related. Greed is the true culprit.
- corbulo 4y ago
  Greed isn't the true culprit. You don't make more money by making any % of your consumer base hate you.
  - Ygg2 4y ago
    If you don't release game by X date and for 5 year old consoles. Your stocks will definitely go down. And CDPR is a publicly traded company. For a publicly traded company, especially one with short term oriented investors, some amount of brand tarnishing is acceptable. For another similar example see Fallout 76.
    - corbulo 4y ago
      Greed being the common denominator makes it not the culprit. If greed were truly the culprit then they would be focused on making the most amount of money possible without constraints. It's poor leadership and short sightedness IMO.
jeroenhd 4y ago
My Cyberpunk experience was actually quite good. I didn't try it on day 1, but after a patch or two my pirated copy (wanted to see if my PC could run it before I spent 60 euros on it) ran great. Sure, my poor 1080 can't do max settings or ray tracing or even good DLSS, but the graphics are gorgeous even at mid-low settings. There were (and still are) Skyrim-level bugs, but that didn't bother me too much. I think the people that bought into the hype got severely disappointed and anyone buying the game on consoles simply got scammed, but as someone who bought the game after it had been out for a bit, I've had nothing but fun with it. In fact, one thing CP2077 allows that most other games don't, is backing up the DRM-free installer for the patched game. Steam/PS store/Xbox Online will die one day and all their online patches will disappear forerver, but the GOG versions of most games will run in 20 or 30 years as long as you remember make a backup of the installer.
- syrrim 4y ago
  >wanted to see if my PC could run it before I spent 60 euros on it steam usually allows refunds in the first few hours of playtime, which supports this usecase as well.
  - vladvasiliu 4y ago
    Good to know. There's a big fat warning that you forfeit your right to return the game as soon as you click download. This is in France, where there's a mandatory 14-day return window for online purchases. But there are restrictions on some items, such as media must be "unopened", and I guess downloading is considered as "opening".

Ygg2 4y ago

It's caused by ability to patch game later and rushing product to reach impossible deadline on an impossible configuration. Which is only tangentially related. Greed is the true culprit.

corbulo 4y ago
Greed isn't the true culprit. You don't make more money by making any % of your consumer base hate you.
- Ygg2 4y ago
  If you don't release game by X date and for 5 year old consoles. Your stocks will definitely go down. And CDPR is a publicly traded company. For a publicly traded company, especially one with short term oriented investors, some amount of brand tarnishing is acceptable. For another similar example see Fallout 76.
  - corbulo 4y ago
    Greed being the common denominator makes it not the culprit. If greed were truly the culprit then they would be focused on making the most amount of money possible without constraints. It's poor leadership and short sightedness IMO.

jeroenhd 4y ago

My Cyberpunk experience was actually quite good. I didn't try it on day 1, but after a patch or two my pirated copy (wanted to see if my PC could run it before I spent 60 euros on it) ran great. Sure, my poor 1080 can't do max settings or ray tracing or even good DLSS, but the graphics are gorgeous even at mid-low settings. There were (and still are) Skyrim-level bugs, but that didn't bother me too much. I think the people that bought into the hype got severely disappointed and anyone buying the game on consoles simply got scammed, but as someone who bought the game after it had been out for a bit, I've had nothing but fun with it. In fact, one thing CP2077 allows that most other games don't, is backing up the DRM-free installer for the patched game. Steam/PS store/Xbox Online will die one day and all their online patches will disappear forerver, but the GOG versions of most games will run in 20 or 30 years as long as you remember make a backup of the installer.

syrrim 4y ago
>wanted to see if my PC could run it before I spent 60 euros on it steam usually allows refunds in the first few hours of playtime, which supports this usecase as well.
- vladvasiliu 4y ago
  Good to know. There's a big fat warning that you forfeit your right to return the game as soon as you click download. This is in France, where there's a mandatory 14-day return window for online purchases. But there are restrictions on some items, such as media must be "unopened", and I guess downloading is considered as "opening".