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Those aren't the co-conspirators. The co-conspirators are the people pushing this false idea for profit and political gain. The people you're describing are th

Those aren't the co-conspirators. The co-conspirators are the people pushing this false idea for profit and political gain. The people you're describing are the victims of an ideology that falsely told them they could ignore biology and thereby ruined a lot of lives.[1] Obviously their families were also wrong to abandon them, and like everyone else on the streets, they deserve help to put their lives back together, but if they are still living on the streets they obviously aren't getting that help from the people who claim to represent them but are actually using them as political props instead of helping them find homes and professions they like. 1: I encourage you to read this other discussion that was on HN today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34753240 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34753240

SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
> I encourage you to read this other discussion yes, there's a lot of horrid crap on this topic on HN lately. It's been politicised already, no need to push this agenda further. Your encouragement is not needed, that nonsense is quite visible. eyeroll.
- leereeves 4y ago
  The author describers herself as a queer woman, married to a transman, to the left of Bernie Sanders, and a case manager at The Washington University Transgender Center at St. Louis Children's Hospital. If you won't even listen to her, dismissing her experience as "horrid crap", then perhaps you're "stuck in an ideological local maximum". Is there anyone you would listen to?
  - SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
    It's the commentary and the ends to which it is put, that are the horrid crap. Case in point, your comments above.
    - leereeves 4y ago
      She's very clear that what's being done is the "horrid crap". "What’s happening to children is morally and medically appalling." You probably think you're supporting a good cause, but you're not.
      - SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
        > You probably think you're supporting a good cause, but you're not project much? "horrid crap" was my term, you don't get to tell me what I mean. It's transparently a drummed-up wedge issue, designed to demonise a vulnerable minority for political gain and distraction, and as such is utterly without merit and not worthy of more of my attention. And if allowed to continue, it won't end with that group. You don't strike me as an instigator of this nonsense though. No, you seem more like you're carrying water for them, what Lenin called a "Useful idiot". tl;dr: Eyeroll
        leereeves 4y ago
        Hilarious. It's not conservatives who are pushing this issue; it's the kind of people who quote Lenin. I agree it's a "drummed-up wedge issue", that's essentially what I've been saying all along, but you know who really drummed it up. The same people who are encouraging vulnerable youth to have dangerous medical treatments.
        SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
        > It's not conservatives who are pushing this issue; This is a flat denial of reality over the last few years.

SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago

> I encourage you to read this other discussion yes, there's a lot of horrid crap on this topic on HN lately. It's been politicised already, no need to push this agenda further. Your encouragement is not needed, that nonsense is quite visible. eyeroll.

leereeves 4y ago
The author describers herself as a queer woman, married to a transman, to the left of Bernie Sanders, and a case manager at The Washington University Transgender Center at St. Louis Children's Hospital. If you won't even listen to her, dismissing her experience as "horrid crap", then perhaps you're "stuck in an ideological local maximum". Is there anyone you would listen to?
- SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
  It's the commentary and the ends to which it is put, that are the horrid crap. Case in point, your comments above.
  - leereeves 4y ago
    She's very clear that what's being done is the "horrid crap". "What’s happening to children is morally and medically appalling." You probably think you're supporting a good cause, but you're not.
    - SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
      > You probably think you're supporting a good cause, but you're not project much? "horrid crap" was my term, you don't get to tell me what I mean. It's transparently a drummed-up wedge issue, designed to demonise a vulnerable minority for political gain and distraction, and as such is utterly without merit and not worthy of more of my attention. And if allowed to continue, it won't end with that group. You don't strike me as an instigator of this nonsense though. No, you seem more like you're carrying water for them, what Lenin called a "Useful idiot". tl;dr: Eyeroll
      - leereeves 4y ago
        Hilarious. It's not conservatives who are pushing this issue; it's the kind of people who quote Lenin. I agree it's a "drummed-up wedge issue", that's essentially what I've been saying all along, but you know who really drummed it up. The same people who are encouraging vulnerable youth to have dangerous medical treatments.
        SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
        > It's not conservatives who are pushing this issue; This is a flat denial of reality over the last few years.