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There are complex reasons related to patent licensing why it makes no sense to put 10Gbe on a motherboard right now. If you want 10Gbe, don't get a $1000 mother
by Tuna-Fish 4y ago
There are complex reasons related to patent licensing why it makes no sense to put 10Gbe on a motherboard right now. If you want 10Gbe, don't get a $1000 motherboard for it, get a motherboard with a free pcie 4.0 slot and get an adapter. That'll cost an extra ~$100 today, and an extra ~$20 in August.
- krisroadruck 4y agoFair enough - I'm clearly paying a premium to keep a cleaner interior on the build. I tend to run exactly one card - the video card, and aim to get everything else onboard, but as you pointed out that's definitely not the only way to go, and certainly not the most cost efficient way.
- willis936 4y agoVanity can cost as much as a market is willing to pay. From a function standpoint: I'm happy that multiple PCIe slots is still the standard. If I didn't have functional wants such as "more accelerators and more I/O" then I'd go with a cute ITX build. I did get a compact case recently because 5.25", 3.5", and 2.5" bays are no longer an interesting use case for my daily driver, but now I find that even if I did want to shell out for a new high-end GPU the only model that would fit in my case is a perpetually sold out AIO model.
- myself248 4y agoAye. I keep two desktops around for this reason. One is my new Ryzen APU in a small (sub-7-liter) case, which sits half empty because I haven't even dropped a GPU into it. All my games and CAD run just fine on the APU. All the included peripherals are more than I've ever needed. The other is my old Athlon64x2 4850e in a bigass M3N78 Pro board, with drives and I/O out the wazoo. It's old enough to have floppy and PATA ports, but new enough to have SATA and USB too (and even a PCIe slot), so it's my media mule. I power it up whenever I need to do CD ripping, floppy archiving, that sort of stuff. I actually picked up the fastest chip that would fit the board (a Phenom II X4 945), just for giggles because they're $30 on eBay now, but promptly swapped back to the 4850e because 125 watts in a CPU is unconscionable when 45 does the job just fine. The latter, of course, is chock-full of cables like they're goin' out of style. I made a few long floppy and PATA ribbons for working with external disks so they sit crammed up in the bottom when not in use, etc. And the non-modular PSU has like a dozen cables all splattered everywhere. It's the opposite of vanity, and I love it.
- robin_reala 4y agoWhy $20 in August?
- Tuna-Fish 4y agoPatents expire. The cost of actually making a 10gbase-t network card is really not much anymore. All of the cost is licensing.
- Flockster 4y agoAre there substantial patents running out in this year or why the huge expected priceloss?
- bauruine 4y agoYou can get dual port 10 Gbit cards from ebay for less than 20$ right now.
- Tuna-Fish 4y agoThe only ones I see are sfp+ cards, those also require transceivers (at ~$50 per) to work. The cheapest 10gbase-t cards I can see are refurbished PCIe 16x cards with active cooling for ~$40, you probably don't want those either. Really, as a consumer you want either a PCIe x4 or ideally a PCIe 4.0x1 card, with a modern much more power-efficient chip.
- bauruine 4y agoSFP+ uses less power, has less latency and DAC / Twinax cables cost less then 30$ for 6 meters. The only downside is that DAC is limited to 6 meters I think.
- allenrb 4y agoI run sfp+ 10 gig at home. You can get SR transceivers for maybe $6ea last I made a purchase. Appropriate LC fiber patch cords are similarly dirt cheap.
- greggyb 4y agoIf you are already buying a used NIC, why would you not buy a used transceiver as well? I see SFP+ transceivers for $6-$15 with a quick search.
- chasd00 4y agoPosted the basic question in another post but I’ll ask here too. What are you using to saturate a 10gbe nic? Inet??? I find a true 10gbe inet connection unusual but I’ve been out of that game for a while.
- 14u2c 4y agoWhat's happening in August?
- mrtweetyhack 4y ago[dead]