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Intel has had process problems. I don't think those continue to be their primary issues. It wasn't process problems that kept sapphire rapids from being relea
by locustous 4y ago
Intel has had process problems. I don't think those continue to be their primary issues.
It wasn't process problems that kept sapphire rapids from being released till now. 10nm/Intel 7 has been ramped up and fabbing products for over a year.
They are very late on critical products that are clearly not the fault of the foundry side. This is squarely on the design side.
Running good engineering orgs is hard, Intel's problems run deep and on many levels.
- ksec 4y agoFew extra notes. The original Sapphire had to be "redesigned" ( or reworked ) for Intel 7. You cant just take an high yield Intel 7 Golden Cove Core and "Edit" it with some extra features for server and then expect it yield. Second being Intel 7 isn't exactly high yield either. At least not 14nm level. It is good enough for small die size chips, but it is something different for large die size ( Aka Sapphire Rapid ). Which is why the comparison between Intel and AMD on server market doesn't make sense. They have a very different economy of scale. Third being Intel doesn't put resources in Intel 7 any more. It is no longer a priority. They are losing one way or another that is why they put everything into their next node Intel 4. Intel is expecting Intel 3 in 2023 and products out in 2024, this isn't too far behind TSMC schedule.
- locustous 4y ago> The original Sapphire had to be "redesigned" ( or reworked ) for Intel 7. You cant just take an high yield Intel 7 Golden Cove Core and "Edit" it with some extra features for server and then expect it yield. All the other products that shipped on Intel 7 had to also be designed for the process. Intel was also late on arc, which wasn't even fabbed on Intel process nodes. Ponte Vecchio... Late late late.