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Did my part buying an i5-13600k. Going from an i7-7700 it was a pretty good jump

bombcar 4y ago
I’ve been so far out of it for so long I have no real way to interpret those numbers. 13600 is almost double 7700 so that’s obviously good but is i5 noticeably inferior to i7?
- unpopularopp 4y ago
  Recently, and especially with this gen, the line between i5 and i7 is coming down to the amount of cores itself not the single core peformance. Basically 14 Cores, 20 Threads @3.5GHz vs 16 Cores, 24 Threads @3.4GHz. What used to be the i7 was (like with the i7-7700) now occupied by the i9 line The value price of the 12600k is just much better
- mhh__ 4y ago
  Which i7?
- wongarsu 4y ago
  7700 is 7th generation, 13600 is 13th generation, so they are about 6 years apart. The 600 and 700 tells you something about how they are positioned within their generation (bigger equals better). i5 vs i7 is a difficult topic. i7 generally has more hardware features enabled and has the higher end models. But unless you want specific features it's not so big of a deal. Looking up the numbers instead of reading them like tarot cards, I can tell you that the i7 7700 is a 8 core processor with a max turbo frequency of 4.20 GHz, and the i5 13600 is a 14 core with 6 cores that can do 5 GHz, and 8 efficiency cores capped at 3.7GHz. And both support VT-d, which is about the only feature I would care about :D
- Tsiklon 4y ago
  Intel’s naming convention on consumer parts is relatively easy to grok, as it’s been much more consistent for the last 12 years than their server/workstation parts. Breaking both down we have 3 things to take note of: i5/i7 - indicates relative performance or feature set within a given generation, bigger is generally better 13/7 - the generation of processor 600/700 - where Intel rates a given processor within a generation, this is consistent and doesn’t (to my knowledge) involve overlap between i3/5/7/9 - generally bigger is better. So i5-13600 is a thirteenth gen i5, type 600. i7-7700 is a seventh gen i7, type 700 Then you get the legion of letter suffixes determining other features, mobile SKUs etc.
  - alexklarjr 4y ago
    Also, “gens” are announcing/releasing during every year, starting 2010, so 7700 was released in 2016 and 13600 at the end of last year. Performance gains are shifting unevenly sometimes there is marginal gains, sometimes (when AMD bites) it is much more. For example i7 2017 is equivalent of i3 from 2020.
- Tuna-Fish 4y ago
  i7 and i5 are just "market segment" identifiers. Even in the first few generations, there were "i7" cpus that were inferior to "i5" ones. In general, you can only infer very little from the marketing names. To have any actual idea, you have to look at benchmarks. In practice, 13600 is ~70% faster per thread, and has 2.5 times the threads.
- tinfever 4y ago
  I like to use Passmark as a very rough comparison for CPUs. Emphasis on rough, but probably grounded in reality. Whether the user can utilize such performance, or if they have a specific workload that isn't ideally multithreaded, is critical. i5-13600k is around 38000 points (https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-13600K&id=5008 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-13600...) i7-7700k is around 9600 points (https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-7700K+%40+4.20GHz&id=2874 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-7700K...) So the new i5 is nearly 4x faster than the old i7. New CPUs have come a long way over the last few years.
  - secabeen 4y ago
    Some of this is additional cores (4x overall). On a single thread, the 13th gen is only about 50% faster than 7th (2727 to 4190).
ThatPlayer 4y ago
I just the same upgrade myself, though from a 7700K. Really I can't say it's been that much of an improvement in day to day, and I expect to wait even longer before my next upgrade.

I’ve been so far out of it for so long I have no real way to interpret those numbers. 13600 is almost double 7700 so that’s obviously good but is i5 noticeably inferior to i7?

unpopularopp 4y ago
Recently, and especially with this gen, the line between i5 and i7 is coming down to the amount of cores itself not the single core peformance. Basically 14 Cores, 20 Threads @3.5GHz vs 16 Cores, 24 Threads @3.4GHz. What used to be the i7 was (like with the i7-7700) now occupied by the i9 line The value price of the 12600k is just much better
mhh__ 4y ago
Which i7?
wongarsu 4y ago
7700 is 7th generation, 13600 is 13th generation, so they are about 6 years apart. The 600 and 700 tells you something about how they are positioned within their generation (bigger equals better). i5 vs i7 is a difficult topic. i7 generally has more hardware features enabled and has the higher end models. But unless you want specific features it's not so big of a deal. Looking up the numbers instead of reading them like tarot cards, I can tell you that the i7 7700 is a 8 core processor with a max turbo frequency of 4.20 GHz, and the i5 13600 is a 14 core with 6 cores that can do 5 GHz, and 8 efficiency cores capped at 3.7GHz. And both support VT-d, which is about the only feature I would care about :D
Tsiklon 4y ago
Intel’s naming convention on consumer parts is relatively easy to grok, as it’s been much more consistent for the last 12 years than their server/workstation parts. Breaking both down we have 3 things to take note of: i5/i7 - indicates relative performance or feature set within a given generation, bigger is generally better 13/7 - the generation of processor 600/700 - where Intel rates a given processor within a generation, this is consistent and doesn’t (to my knowledge) involve overlap between i3/5/7/9 - generally bigger is better. So i5-13600 is a thirteenth gen i5, type 600. i7-7700 is a seventh gen i7, type 700 Then you get the legion of letter suffixes determining other features, mobile SKUs etc.
- alexklarjr 4y ago
  Also, “gens” are announcing/releasing during every year, starting 2010, so 7700 was released in 2016 and 13600 at the end of last year. Performance gains are shifting unevenly sometimes there is marginal gains, sometimes (when AMD bites) it is much more. For example i7 2017 is equivalent of i3 from 2020.
Tuna-Fish 4y ago
i7 and i5 are just "market segment" identifiers. Even in the first few generations, there were "i7" cpus that were inferior to "i5" ones. In general, you can only infer very little from the marketing names. To have any actual idea, you have to look at benchmarks. In practice, 13600 is ~70% faster per thread, and has 2.5 times the threads.
tinfever 4y ago
I like to use Passmark as a very rough comparison for CPUs. Emphasis on rough, but probably grounded in reality. Whether the user can utilize such performance, or if they have a specific workload that isn't ideally multithreaded, is critical. i5-13600k is around 38000 points (https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-13600K&id=5008 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-13600...) i7-7700k is around 9600 points (https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-7700K+%40+4.20GHz&id=2874 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-7700K...) So the new i5 is nearly 4x faster than the old i7. New CPUs have come a long way over the last few years.
- secabeen 4y ago
  Some of this is additional cores (4x overall). On a single thread, the 13th gen is only about 50% faster than 7th (2727 to 4190).

ThatPlayer 4y ago

I just the same upgrade myself, though from a 7700K. Really I can't say it's been that much of an improvement in day to day, and I expect to wait even longer before my next upgrade.