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Did you seriously just suggest that people should ignore treatment suggestions by real doctors and go to a rave? And then have the gall to call the author irres
by subjectsigma 4y ago
Did you seriously just suggest that people should ignore treatment suggestions by real doctors and go to a rave? And then have the gall to call the author irresponsible?
This is one of the many reasons why normal people are disgusted by rave culture.
- benmoose 4y agoThose disgusted by rave culture really should get out more
- greesil 4y agoI'm terrified that somewhere, someone is having a good time.
- subjectsigma 4y agoMy girlfriend used to go to camping raves and had to stop. She described the culture as “really smelly and pretty rape-y depending on the set list”. Sounds just lovely. She still listens to the music, though, much to my chagrin as I think its fucking terrible.
- voisin 4y ago> one of the many reasons why normal people are disgusted by rave culture I’ve never been to a rave but I’ve also never met anyone in my life who has expressed disgust by rave culture. Is this a thing?
- jungledeuce 4y agoYou don’t know enough white suburban conservative Christian seniors. I agree it’s not exactly a huge group, but in my experience in the Midwest that’s where you might find disgust. Everywhere else? I agree, normal people are not in general “disgusted” by kids at parties dancing all night dressed in neon or whatever the kids these days do.
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- jungledeuce 4y ago[flagged]
- tarotuser 4y agoIt's a protestant (or WASP- white anglo-saxon protestant) history in the USA that has caused innumerable damage on medicine, education, and what is 'acceptable'. In sex-ed, we're not allowed to talk to children/adolescents that sex is enjoyable. It's against protestant morals. If something feels good, we're not allowed to talk about it. And in that same view, doctors should never give out drugs that make you feel good. We even have a term for this outside of doctors offices: sin taxes. Alcohol, tobacco, cannabis, mushrooms all make you feel 'good', but that feeling good is somehow bad. So yeah, there has been a stigma on psychotropic drugs in this country because they make you feel good. And that is bad to the WASP types. (And that's ignoring the fact that white isn't even a race to be racist against. White is a social construct created in Virginia to mean 'not negro and not indian's. Later was also 'not asian and not jew' and sometimes 'not Italian and not Irish'. But I digress....)
- subjectsigma 4y agoMy girlfriend, who used to go to quite a few raves, claimed that sexual assault was a big problem.
- elecush 4y agosecond-hand knowledge is not expertise
- subjectsigma 4y agoI’m going to believe my girlfriend over you, thanks
- ethanbond 4y agoI don’t agree with the advice but it’s a little silly to act like the institutions that have been ignoring life-saving and life-bettering treatments due to their phenomenological effects have some immediate monopoly on the right way to use those treatments.
- emodendroket 4y agoNo but that's an altogether different suggestion from advising depressed people go get high at a rave.
- ethanbond 4y agoDo we know that a clinical setting is advantageous or even neutral for these types of treatments? Ravers/psychedelic community: “it’s the drugs, music, and community, man!” Clinicians for 50 years while people are suffering immensely: “no.” Clinicians after 50 years: “okay, we’ll give you the drugs in our clean room.” Maybe clinical settings are fine, and surely the way to find out is by doing rigorous science, but it’s very possible still that the medical community is wrong on this and thousands of years of communal drug/dance/music rituals were “more right.”
- seattle_spring 4y agoRacers are some of the most depressed people I've ever met when not raving.
- dkjaudyeqooe 4y ago
- im3w1l 4y agoMaybe she would have had a better experience spooning some handsome gentleman himself out of his mind on mdma than holding the hand of someone writing in a journal with the other hand and telling her to do breathing exercises? Or maybe not. These are basically religious experiences and there is a human and emotional element to consider. It's highly non-obvious.
- lliamander 4y agoNot personally a fan of rave culture, but might they have more experience with psychedelics that most doctors?