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Why aren’t these people in prison? They broke the law and committed crimes. Is it connections or is it that they have some sort of immunity?

mrkeen 4y ago
Blue-collar actions are found to be criminal. White-collar actions are found to be unlawful and stopped. Government or politician actions are found to be unlawful and continue.
- jacooper 4y ago
  > Government or politician actions are found to be unlawful and continue That got a laugh
  - ghqst 4y ago
    supposedly this SHOULD be accomplished through impeachment but it rarely is
    - jacooper 4y ago
      Did you mean to reply to another comment?
      - ghqst 4y ago
        I don't think so? Is impeachment not the constitution's solution to politicians who do unlawful things in office?
        IncRnd 4y ago
        No, that's not universally true for the US... There aren't constitutional mechanisms for impeaching any and all politicians.
- ck2 4y ago
  It's so weird to me that everyone assumes the NSA simply stopped recording all American phone calls because they were caught doing it and it was actually illegal.
  - brookst 4y ago
    Who assumes that? I don’t. Sounds like you don’t. Is it really everyone except the two of us? I doubt that.
  - MonkeyMalarky 4y ago
    I know they also surveil other forms of digital communication but it still amuses me to think about how they built a huge apparatus for tapping phones and then millennials and gen-z come along who only make calls as a last resort.
  - trieste92 4y ago
    whether they're recording or not is one question whether they can find a needle in a lake sized haystack is another
    - giardini 4y ago
      The problem is not whether "they can find a needle...", the problem is the the pointy things they "find" that are not needles: "It Ain’t What You Don’t Know That Gets You Into Trouble. It’s What You Know for Sure That Just Ain’t So." -anonymous https://quoteinvestigator.com/2018/11/18/know-trouble/ https://quoteinvestigator.com/2018/11/18/know-trouble/
ttyprintk 4y ago
Cynically, I think there’s a better explanation than those two. The LEO training is useful for spelling out exactly what you’re supposed to say in public. There’s another training in subtlety; maybe ad hoc. You learn exactly where the line is before a paper trail is made and the public can proclaim you “egregiously overstepped”

mrkeen 4y ago

Blue-collar actions are found to be criminal. White-collar actions are found to be unlawful and stopped. Government or politician actions are found to be unlawful and continue.

jacooper 4y ago
> Government or politician actions are found to be unlawful and continue That got a laugh
- ghqst 4y ago
  supposedly this SHOULD be accomplished through impeachment but it rarely is
  - jacooper 4y ago
    Did you mean to reply to another comment?
    - ghqst 4y ago
      I don't think so? Is impeachment not the constitution's solution to politicians who do unlawful things in office?
      - IncRnd 4y ago
        No, that's not universally true for the US... There aren't constitutional mechanisms for impeaching any and all politicians.
ck2 4y ago
It's so weird to me that everyone assumes the NSA simply stopped recording all American phone calls because they were caught doing it and it was actually illegal.
- brookst 4y ago
  Who assumes that? I don’t. Sounds like you don’t. Is it really everyone except the two of us? I doubt that.
- MonkeyMalarky 4y ago
  I know they also surveil other forms of digital communication but it still amuses me to think about how they built a huge apparatus for tapping phones and then millennials and gen-z come along who only make calls as a last resort.
- trieste92 4y ago
  whether they're recording or not is one question whether they can find a needle in a lake sized haystack is another
  - giardini 4y ago
    The problem is not whether "they can find a needle...", the problem is the the pointy things they "find" that are not needles: "It Ain’t What You Don’t Know That Gets You Into Trouble. It’s What You Know for Sure That Just Ain’t So." -anonymous https://quoteinvestigator.com/2018/11/18/know-trouble/ https://quoteinvestigator.com/2018/11/18/know-trouble/

ttyprintk 4y ago

Cynically, I think there’s a better explanation than those two. The LEO training is useful for spelling out exactly what you’re supposed to say in public. There’s another training in subtlety; maybe ad hoc. You learn exactly where the line is before a paper trail is made and the public can proclaim you “egregiously overstepped”