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This is written like someone venting about an edit war, but it's not a big surprise. Regional nationalists ruin Wikipedia articles all the time. Just go through

This is written like someone venting about an edit war, but it's not a big surprise. Regional nationalists ruin Wikipedia articles all the time. Just go through the history of the articles on "Night Hunting", a Bhutanese practice that often includes home invasion and violent rape, to see what I mean.

mherdeg 4y ago
Goodness gracious. This article is ... Not very encyclopedic? This is quite an odd tone. > The prowling may be foiled due to wrong footing, which may wake up the whole family. They intruder may get chased away with hot water splashed on him, or be thrown out of the window. Strict parents chase the intruder or threaten him with marriage or a stick while liberal ones pretend to be asleep even if they know the prowler is around. This is more likely if they know the prowler is a suitor they would like to have for their daughter. It is not difficult to guess who the prowler might be in small close-knit villages. > Boys generally attempt to complete the task and make a quick exit if the parents of the girl are in and may stay longer if the girl is alone. It is in some places a custom that a boy discovered in the morning by the parents shall become the husband of the girl, but usually the boy and the girl make sure that the boy exits before the parents get up in the morning. If he oversleeps, they may still find a way to sneak out.
- archon1410 4y ago
  The article is bad, the first part based on impressions from pop-sources and Western memoirs, rather than scholarly sources. > In part due to the lack of proper understanding of the practice and partly due to the influence of westernized urban bias towards the primitive folk practices of rural communities, modern Bhutanese urbanites, particularly those who are engaged in development and gender issues and who carry out their conversations in English, have inaccurately used the misnomer ‘night hunting’ in English to refer to this traditional practice although neither the word ‘night’ nor the word ‘hunting’ exists in the original terms used to refer to it in places where it is practised. The misnomer leads to a serious misinterpretation of the practice and leads the audience to think that there is a degree of exploitation and abuse, objectification, and animality involved as the word ‘hunting’ would imply. https://texts.mandala.library.virginia.edu/text/bomena-night-dating https://texts.mandala.library.virginia.edu/text/bomena-night... by Karma Phuntsho, Bhutanese scholar. I recall similar practices in other societies, such as Cambodian 'love huts' that fathers build for their daughters, where suitors might come to her at night. The grandparent commenter might be annoyed by the later section? But it is not a "nationalist defence", it's just putting the practice in context.
kgeist 4y ago
>Bhutanese practice that often includes home invasion and violent rape Where can I read more about it? (other than Wikipedia) Now I'm curious if it's just a way for young people who still live with parents (like, most people in Asia's rural areas) to have sex, or non-consentual rape is really rampant there. Sure regional nationalists aren't objective, but outsiders aren't necessarily objective either, because they often judge foreign cultures through the prism of their own cultures, see "culture shock"
- MacsHeadroom 4y ago
  It sounds to me like it's just teens sneaking into each other's bedroom windows at night to make out. Normal Western suburbanite stuff.

mherdeg 4y ago

Goodness gracious. This article is ... Not very encyclopedic? This is quite an odd tone. > The prowling may be foiled due to wrong footing, which may wake up the whole family. They intruder may get chased away with hot water splashed on him, or be thrown out of the window. Strict parents chase the intruder or threaten him with marriage or a stick while liberal ones pretend to be asleep even if they know the prowler is around. This is more likely if they know the prowler is a suitor they would like to have for their daughter. It is not difficult to guess who the prowler might be in small close-knit villages. > Boys generally attempt to complete the task and make a quick exit if the parents of the girl are in and may stay longer if the girl is alone. It is in some places a custom that a boy discovered in the morning by the parents shall become the husband of the girl, but usually the boy and the girl make sure that the boy exits before the parents get up in the morning. If he oversleeps, they may still find a way to sneak out.

archon1410 4y ago
The article is bad, the first part based on impressions from pop-sources and Western memoirs, rather than scholarly sources. > In part due to the lack of proper understanding of the practice and partly due to the influence of westernized urban bias towards the primitive folk practices of rural communities, modern Bhutanese urbanites, particularly those who are engaged in development and gender issues and who carry out their conversations in English, have inaccurately used the misnomer ‘night hunting’ in English to refer to this traditional practice although neither the word ‘night’ nor the word ‘hunting’ exists in the original terms used to refer to it in places where it is practised. The misnomer leads to a serious misinterpretation of the practice and leads the audience to think that there is a degree of exploitation and abuse, objectification, and animality involved as the word ‘hunting’ would imply. https://texts.mandala.library.virginia.edu/text/bomena-night-dating https://texts.mandala.library.virginia.edu/text/bomena-night... by Karma Phuntsho, Bhutanese scholar. I recall similar practices in other societies, such as Cambodian 'love huts' that fathers build for their daughters, where suitors might come to her at night. The grandparent commenter might be annoyed by the later section? But it is not a "nationalist defence", it's just putting the practice in context.

kgeist 4y ago

>Bhutanese practice that often includes home invasion and violent rape Where can I read more about it? (other than Wikipedia) Now I'm curious if it's just a way for young people who still live with parents (like, most people in Asia's rural areas) to have sex, or non-consentual rape is really rampant there. Sure regional nationalists aren't objective, but outsiders aren't necessarily objective either, because they often judge foreign cultures through the prism of their own cultures, see "culture shock"

MacsHeadroom 4y ago
It sounds to me like it's just teens sneaking into each other's bedroom windows at night to make out. Normal Western suburbanite stuff.