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Strange new worlds is great, I wouldn’t put it in the same category as the other new treks. I want to give Orville a chance, but Seth Macfarlane humor and star

Strange new worlds is great, I wouldn’t put it in the same category as the other new treks. I want to give Orville a chance, but Seth Macfarlane humor and star trek matches about as well as stinky tofu and ice cream.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
I hear you, but by the second season things get much better in that regard. Also, the first season had at least two legitimately hilarious jokes.
- esperent 4y ago
  I'm sure there's quicker way to find two genuinely hilarious jokes than watching an entire series of a TV show filled with otherwise bad jokes.
- rmckayfleming 4y ago
  Yea. The last half of season 1 it starts to become more just Star Trek. Season 2 and 3 are straight Star Trek. I really enjoyed them.
archi42 4y ago
Orville, imho: The first season tries hard with some poor jokes (what you seem to be afraid of), but already has some very TNG worthy material and great ideas. It improves from there, and now it's occasionally funny but in a more mature way that fits much better. Just give it a try, and endure some cringe - I think it's worth it. And as sibling says, some moments are actually pretty hilarious and/or spot-on. Though of course YMMV.
- hotpotamus 4y ago
  Millenia ago, Roman soldiers toured the then known world and left writings/graffiti, some of which survives to this day - a lot of it is dick jokes. Mozart wrote some of the most transcendent music of his era, and also a song that he enjoyed called "Lick My Ass" (music appreciation classes tend to skip that one for some reason). So that is to say that based on the history of humanity as a species, the engineers running the starships of the future are probably going to still enjoy scatalogical humor which makes think MacFarlane's vison will probably be a bit more likely than Rodenberry's. Also, Lower Decks is easily my favorite Trek running today.
  - Y_Y 4y ago
    Leck mich im Arsch is a fine song, but really Mozart's lyrical mastery comes out in Bona Box, which is not only a series of puns in five languages, it also contains the following lines (translated): Good night, good night, Shit in your bed and make it burst; Good night, sleep tight, And stick your ass to your mouth
- nytesky 4y ago
  Pretty sure SM wanted to do the more straight TNG sequel, but since he is known for over the top comedy he pitched it as an over the top comedy/parody of Star Trek — and then pivoted to a homage mid season 1!
  - rmckayfleming 4y ago
    My impression was more that he just wanted to do Star Trek but the studios were like "it'll be funny right???". And so he went along with it at first, but dropped it as time went on. On a related note, I've been rewatching Enterprise and I didn't know Seth MacFarlane made 2 cameo appearances in the series! (In two different seasons too.)
tzs 4y ago
> I want to give Orville a chance, but Seth Macfarlane humor and star trek matches about as well as stinky tofu and ice cream. A lot of critics dismissed it early for that reason, assuming it was just going to be some kind of Family Guy in Space show. They were wrong. There is humor in The Orville but it is not really like Family Guy humor (about which I think South Park nailed it in "Cartoon Wars"). On The Orville the humor is just a minor part of the show. They are not going for a comedy in space. They are going for science fiction drama with some comedy tossed in, when appropriate. I think AnIdiotOnTheNet was wrong though to call it basically a new ST:TNG. It is much more a new ST:TOS. Seth Macfarlane thought that TOS had an optimistic outlook on the future that subsequent ST series had lost. The later series were in a darker future, and he wanted a series that brought back that TOS feel. It's basically ST:TOS but with a few more jokes (mostly good ones), and instead of being set on the flagship of the fleet, crewed by the very best of the best, it is set on a ship that isn't expected to ever do anything important crewed by people whose careers have gone nowhere where they are expected to finish their terms of service in continued mediocrity. The first season was OK. It has some pretty good ideas. The second season continued having many good ideas, and the writers and actors had really figured things out so things really came together well. I haven't watched any of the third season yet.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago

I hear you, but by the second season things get much better in that regard. Also, the first season had at least two legitimately hilarious jokes.

esperent 4y ago
I'm sure there's quicker way to find two genuinely hilarious jokes than watching an entire series of a TV show filled with otherwise bad jokes.
rmckayfleming 4y ago
Yea. The last half of season 1 it starts to become more just Star Trek. Season 2 and 3 are straight Star Trek. I really enjoyed them.

archi42 4y ago

Orville, imho: The first season tries hard with some poor jokes (what you seem to be afraid of), but already has some very TNG worthy material and great ideas. It improves from there, and now it's occasionally funny but in a more mature way that fits much better. Just give it a try, and endure some cringe - I think it's worth it. And as sibling says, some moments are actually pretty hilarious and/or spot-on. Though of course YMMV.

hotpotamus 4y ago
Millenia ago, Roman soldiers toured the then known world and left writings/graffiti, some of which survives to this day - a lot of it is dick jokes. Mozart wrote some of the most transcendent music of his era, and also a song that he enjoyed called "Lick My Ass" (music appreciation classes tend to skip that one for some reason). So that is to say that based on the history of humanity as a species, the engineers running the starships of the future are probably going to still enjoy scatalogical humor which makes think MacFarlane's vison will probably be a bit more likely than Rodenberry's. Also, Lower Decks is easily my favorite Trek running today.
- Y_Y 4y ago
  Leck mich im Arsch is a fine song, but really Mozart's lyrical mastery comes out in Bona Box, which is not only a series of puns in five languages, it also contains the following lines (translated): Good night, good night, Shit in your bed and make it burst; Good night, sleep tight, And stick your ass to your mouth
nytesky 4y ago
Pretty sure SM wanted to do the more straight TNG sequel, but since he is known for over the top comedy he pitched it as an over the top comedy/parody of Star Trek — and then pivoted to a homage mid season 1!
- rmckayfleming 4y ago
  My impression was more that he just wanted to do Star Trek but the studios were like "it'll be funny right???". And so he went along with it at first, but dropped it as time went on. On a related note, I've been rewatching Enterprise and I didn't know Seth MacFarlane made 2 cameo appearances in the series! (In two different seasons too.)

tzs 4y ago

> I want to give Orville a chance, but Seth Macfarlane humor and star trek matches about as well as stinky tofu and ice cream. A lot of critics dismissed it early for that reason, assuming it was just going to be some kind of Family Guy in Space show. They were wrong. There is humor in The Orville but it is not really like Family Guy humor (about which I think South Park nailed it in "Cartoon Wars"). On The Orville the humor is just a minor part of the show. They are not going for a comedy in space. They are going for science fiction drama with some comedy tossed in, when appropriate. I think AnIdiotOnTheNet was wrong though to call it basically a new ST:TNG. It is much more a new ST:TOS. Seth Macfarlane thought that TOS had an optimistic outlook on the future that subsequent ST series had lost. The later series were in a darker future, and he wanted a series that brought back that TOS feel. It's basically ST:TOS but with a few more jokes (mostly good ones), and instead of being set on the flagship of the fleet, crewed by the very best of the best, it is set on a ship that isn't expected to ever do anything important crewed by people whose careers have gone nowhere where they are expected to finish their terms of service in continued mediocrity. The first season was OK. It has some pretty good ideas. The second season continued having many good ideas, and the writers and actors had really figured things out so things really came together well. I haven't watched any of the third season yet.