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The Inuit seemed to do very well on it, before they were introduced to grains and other starches.

uxcolumbo 4y ago
Last time I checked the Inuit didn't have a large scale meat industry that kills billions of animals each year and that pollutes and destroys our biosphere and uses huge amount of resources. The Inuit or any other tribes live with Nature and preserve it. We don't - we do the opposite.
- ipaddr 4y ago
  Wait until you find out how much energy, pollution and waste you created to write that.
  - uxcolumbo 4y ago
    Yep - you're right. Hence why accelerating the transition away from fossil fuels is key. But suggesting to switch to a meat only diet to be healthy is not a solution to our climate crisis. In fact it would worsen it.
    - ipaddr 4y ago
      The real problem is people. What strategy do we have to reduce the world population? Is that topic too taboo? Because it's the core issue.
      - uxcolumbo 4y ago
        World population is projected to stabilize by the end of this century, so I'm not sure population is the main problem. The issue is our consumption habits and how much GHG and pollution it creates - mostly by the West [0] So a more concerted effort to transition away from relying on meat to feed the world is one step we can make [1] Energy is another, which is happening slowly, EU for example is now accelerating the use of more sustainable energy sources - renewables and nuclear. [0] https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211025-climate-how-to-make-the-rich-pay-for-their-carbon-emissions https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211025-climate-how-to-m... [1] https://www.research.ox.ac.uk/article/2019-09-03-planning-for-a-meat-free-future https://www.research.ox.ac.uk/article/2019-09-03-planning-fo...
- chimineycricket 4y ago
  Lol. How you kill the animals, or how many has NOTHING to do with what you're actually eating. If Inuits killed 10,000 animals and only ate 5 of them, parent's comment would still be true.
  - uxcolumbo 4y ago
    The point is that it's not sustainable. We can't feed the world with a meat only diet. There are other diets that are more sustainable. People who switched to a meat only diet usually cut out junk and highly processed food - of course you're seeing a more positive change. Don't eat highly processed food, reduce saturated fat and reduce sugar intake.
    - chimineycricket 4y ago
      Parent wasn't talking about the climate or sustainability at all. My point is that that's not what the conversation is about. The parent was talking about _health_, not climate. Sustainability of meat industry is irrelevant completely to healthiness or non-healthiness of being a human carnivore.
      - uxcolumbo 4y ago
        And yet how we feed ourselves is tightly linked to the climate crisis. You can't disconnect the two unfortunately. Here is an interesting graph from IPCC's data showing the impact of various diets on green house gas emissions. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-02409-7 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-02409-7
adrian_b 4y ago
The Inuit get much more calories from fat than from proteins. Any human who eats mostly lean meat or any other food with more proteins than the sum of fat + carbohydrates, dies soon.
- ddorian43 4y ago
  Carnivore is high-fat and medium-to-low protein.

Last time I checked the Inuit didn't have a large scale meat industry that kills billions of animals each year and that pollutes and destroys our biosphere and uses huge amount of resources. The Inuit or any other tribes live with Nature and preserve it. We don't - we do the opposite.

ipaddr 4y ago
Wait until you find out how much energy, pollution and waste you created to write that.
- uxcolumbo 4y ago
  Yep - you're right. Hence why accelerating the transition away from fossil fuels is key. But suggesting to switch to a meat only diet to be healthy is not a solution to our climate crisis. In fact it would worsen it.
  - ipaddr 4y ago
    The real problem is people. What strategy do we have to reduce the world population? Is that topic too taboo? Because it's the core issue.
    - uxcolumbo 4y ago
      World population is projected to stabilize by the end of this century, so I'm not sure population is the main problem. The issue is our consumption habits and how much GHG and pollution it creates - mostly by the West [0] So a more concerted effort to transition away from relying on meat to feed the world is one step we can make [1] Energy is another, which is happening slowly, EU for example is now accelerating the use of more sustainable energy sources - renewables and nuclear. [0] https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211025-climate-how-to-make-the-rich-pay-for-their-carbon-emissions https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211025-climate-how-to-m... [1] https://www.research.ox.ac.uk/article/2019-09-03-planning-for-a-meat-free-future https://www.research.ox.ac.uk/article/2019-09-03-planning-fo...
chimineycricket 4y ago
Lol. How you kill the animals, or how many has NOTHING to do with what you're actually eating. If Inuits killed 10,000 animals and only ate 5 of them, parent's comment would still be true.
- uxcolumbo 4y ago
  The point is that it's not sustainable. We can't feed the world with a meat only diet. There are other diets that are more sustainable. People who switched to a meat only diet usually cut out junk and highly processed food - of course you're seeing a more positive change. Don't eat highly processed food, reduce saturated fat and reduce sugar intake.
  - chimineycricket 4y ago
    Parent wasn't talking about the climate or sustainability at all. My point is that that's not what the conversation is about. The parent was talking about _health_, not climate. Sustainability of meat industry is irrelevant completely to healthiness or non-healthiness of being a human carnivore.
    - uxcolumbo 4y ago
      And yet how we feed ourselves is tightly linked to the climate crisis. You can't disconnect the two unfortunately. Here is an interesting graph from IPCC's data showing the impact of various diets on green house gas emissions. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-02409-7 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-02409-7

adrian_b 4y ago

The Inuit get much more calories from fat than from proteins. Any human who eats mostly lean meat or any other food with more proteins than the sum of fat + carbohydrates, dies soon.

ddorian43 4y ago
Carnivore is high-fat and medium-to-low protein.