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I’ve found the science behind fasting to not be compelling, or to be conflicting, however, fasting is working well for me at the moment. This is largely becaus
by petesergeant 4y ago
I’ve found the science behind fasting to not be compelling, or to be conflicting, however, fasting is working well for me at the moment.
This is largely because I love to feel very full and to eat a lot, and also because I work much better with black and white rules than with shades of grey that rely on willpower.
I currently do 20:4 fasting: I started eating each day around 12:30, have a huge meal, take a siesta, and then eat some more, stopping usually by 15:30. Sometimes I eat more at the first meal, and that’s the only meal of the day.
I’m losing weight (by calorie counting), but in contrast to previous diets I don’t feel like I’m going without, I don’t feel so hungry, and most importantly, I don’t find myself at 7-8pm thinking “I wonder if I could justify going over my calories just sliiiightly” because I’ve started the fasting app on my phone.
Getting to 16:8 was hard. Going to 18:6 from that was easier. 20:4 was pretty easy, and then going to one meal a day (or 23:1) wasn’t any effort at all, other than it’s uncomfortable to ingest 2,300 calories in one sitting unless you significantly amp up the fat you’re eating.
I’m only really hungry each day from about 10:30 to 12:30, which is the time I use to exercise and then go for a long walk, so it’s very manageable. Not at all hungry in the evenings, and I don’t wake up hungry either. As someone who thinks of themselves as ALWAYS HUNGRY this has been interesting.
- ddorian43 4y agoThen do keto or carnivore and you dont have to fast (has to be high fat) or feel hungry (which is often carb withfrawal).
- petesergeant 4y agoTried keto, lost a little bit of weight at first, but then found it very easy to over-eat and gain weight. Was tracking with pee sticks pretty religiously. The carnivore diet sounds unhinged to my naive ears.
- jononomo 4y agoI do carnivore and it breaks my heart that people dismiss it so much. It is just a flat out miracle diet.
- hirundo 4y agoDitto. I'm more than two years into it an honesty I'd be dead without it. And eating this way I naturally fall into an "intermittent fasting" schedule, because that's all I want to eat.
- ddorian43 4y agoYou should do blood ketone & glucose metering if you want accurate debigging (cgm bllod would be pro debugging)
- greatpostman 4y agoKeto diet changed my life. More energy, focus, mental balance, etc. it’s astounding. Processed carb foods must be truly poison
- uxcolumbo 4y agoNot sure meat only diet is advised. Let alone if everyone would adopt a meat only diet it wouldn't be sustainable. The meat industry is already a major contributor to biosphere destruction. Dr Wareham (heart surgeon) on eating meat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX58PyQwrcI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX58PyQwrcI Dr Neal Barnard on debunking meat myths https://www.pcrm.org/news/news-releases/plant-based-doctor-debunks-meat-myths-debate-leading-nutrition-journal https://www.pcrm.org/news/news-releases/plant-based-doctor-d... Ex special forces guy explains why the meat industry is not sustainable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUMGBwgGYWw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUMGBwgGYWw
- LtdJorge 4y agoThe Inuit seemed to do very well on it, before they were introduced to grains and other starches.
- uxcolumbo 4y agoLast time I checked the Inuit didn't have a large scale meat industry that kills billions of animals each year and that pollutes and destroys our biosphere and uses huge amount of resources. The Inuit or any other tribes live with Nature and preserve it. We don't - we do the opposite.
- ipaddr 4y agoWait until you find out how much energy, pollution and waste you created to write that.
- uxcolumbo 4y agoYep - you're right. Hence why accelerating the transition away from fossil fuels is key. But suggesting to switch to a meat only diet to be healthy is not a solution to our climate crisis. In fact it would worsen it.
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- m463 4y agoI think that fasting is completely different than keto/carnivore. Do you really want to feel less hungry by replacing carbs with fat/protein? Fasting seems to purge your system and your body gets used to digesting sometimes and being clear other times. Also it seems fasting has aging benefits. Lowering calories leads to longer lifespan. And fasting might be one of the only ways to metabolize senescent cells (autophagy)
- readthenotes1 4y ago"also because I work much better with black and white rules than with shades of grey that rely on willpower." Complete abstinence is easier than the perfect moderation. --St. Augustine
- adrian_b 4y agoWhile I completely agree with this sentence in reference to food, in the original text from "De bono coniugali" (On the Good of Marriage), which contains words that are omitted in the English translation: "multi hodie facilius se tota uita ab omni concubitu abstineant quam modum teneant non coeundi nisi prolis causa, si matrimonio copulentur", St. Augustine did not refer to the desire of humans for food, but to the desire of men for women (where "moderation" was understood to mean that the desire must be satisfied only with the purpose of making children "nisi prolis causa").
- noselasd 4y agoWhat does these 20:4, 16:8 numbers mean?
- uxcolumbo 4y ago20 hours no eating - 4 hour eating window. 16 hours no eating - 8 hour eating window Sleep counts as not eating.
- hobo_mark 4y ago> I’ve found the science behind fasting to not be compelling, or to be conflicting, however, fasting is working well for me at the moment. Precisely, do what works for you. I have one big dinner every 48 hours after working out, and either an egg, a piece of fruit, a cereal bar or a yogurt for all other meals. This works well for me, yet colleagues think I am crazy, and here on HN I have been accused of having an eating disorder [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31266709 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31266709