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Perhaps that prehistoric cave painting does show psilocybin mushrooms. That makes it even more crazy that there is no historical evidence for their use again un

Perhaps that prehistoric cave painting does show psilocybin mushrooms. That makes it even more crazy that there is no historical evidence for their use again until 1957– even though, as you point out— multiple species of psilocybin mushrooms grow pervasively in Europe. Honestly, it would be groundbreaking if one grandma told stories about how her mother used to make mushroom tea. But we don’t have those stories. And, there is nothing in all of the Latin and Greek texts of the past 2500 years. It is a real enigma.

culi 4y ago
I have no idea where the claim that there's "no historical evidence for their use" comes from and would like to see a source (or just evidence that you've done any amount of research before making this claim). I think you might be confused because the term "hallucinogenic" only came of use around the 1950s For example, this paper[0] explores the ethnobotanic use of hallucinogenic mushrooms in Slovenia says > Use of hallucinogenic plants and fungi, believed to extend back thousands of years, is an important part of the human experience > The term hallucinogen first became popular in the 1950s and was originally used as the substances were said to produce hallucinations, though we now know that this is often not the case at lower doses Ancient Greeks drank psychoactive concoctions that contained a mix of psychedelic mushrooms and even reports from the Middle Ages document their use. Clusius (1525-1609), a physician and botanist, discovered ‘bolond gomba’, a mushroom known in Germany as Narrenschwamm or Fool's mushroom, which was used in rural areas to concoct a love potion. ‘Fools mushrooms’ were also documented around the same time in Slovakia, Poland, and in England [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7790546/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7790546/
- dr_dshiv 4y ago
  Yes, you can find our investigation here. We scoured the literature for historical reference to psilocybin mushrooms. Also investigating art! That’s what led us to the 118 prehistoric mushroom carvings on Stonehenge. But even these are not psilocybin! https://research.tudelft.nl/en/publications/the-enigma-of-mind-a-theory-of-evolution-and-conscious-experience https://research.tudelft.nl/en/publications/the-enigma-of-mi... Fool’s mushroom also does not have psilocybin.

culi 4y ago

I have no idea where the claim that there's "no historical evidence for their use" comes from and would like to see a source (or just evidence that you've done any amount of research before making this claim). I think you might be confused because the term "hallucinogenic" only came of use around the 1950s For example, this paper[0] explores the ethnobotanic use of hallucinogenic mushrooms in Slovenia says > Use of hallucinogenic plants and fungi, believed to extend back thousands of years, is an important part of the human experience > The term hallucinogen first became popular in the 1950s and was originally used as the substances were said to produce hallucinations, though we now know that this is often not the case at lower doses Ancient Greeks drank psychoactive concoctions that contained a mix of psychedelic mushrooms and even reports from the Middle Ages document their use. Clusius (1525-1609), a physician and botanist, discovered ‘bolond gomba’, a mushroom known in Germany as Narrenschwamm or Fool's mushroom, which was used in rural areas to concoct a love potion. ‘Fools mushrooms’ were also documented around the same time in Slovakia, Poland, and in England [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7790546/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7790546/

dr_dshiv 4y ago
Yes, you can find our investigation here. We scoured the literature for historical reference to psilocybin mushrooms. Also investigating art! That’s what led us to the 118 prehistoric mushroom carvings on Stonehenge. But even these are not psilocybin! https://research.tudelft.nl/en/publications/the-enigma-of-mind-a-theory-of-evolution-and-conscious-experience https://research.tudelft.nl/en/publications/the-enigma-of-mi... Fool’s mushroom also does not have psilocybin.