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I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but corporations are the leading driving force behind almost all of USA's politics. I can count on one hand the numb

I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but corporations are the leading driving force behind almost all of USA's politics. I can count on one hand the number of Representatives and Senators combined that have NOT been bought and paid for by giant corporations. The same goes for non-trivial pieces of legislation passing through either the House or Senate with corporate sponsorship.

Kroms 15y ago
I'm aware that corporations are involved in politics; you misunderstand me. I mean to say, I find the idea of Google advertising something political so explicitly on their front page a little bit discomforting. The same applies to Wikipedia's decision to go with the "nuclear option", a blackout. It feels like it opens all sorts of doors with nasty implications. But that's just me.
hammerdr 15y ago
Just a minor correction: It is pretty widely accepted hypothesis that politicians do not "corrupt" when they are elected to office but that corporations support politicians which favor their positions. Politicians that have money have legitimacy. Legitimate candidates get elected. Couple that with the fact that corporations often donate to 50+ candidates (on both sides of the aisle) and not only do they have a pre-polling vote (through money) but they also get to play in many elections. It's the house vs. the people and the house always wins.
- asdfasdghasdf 15y ago
  If you can produce evidence that a corporation has donated to even one candidate, much less 50, the FEC would love to speak to you; it's illegal for corporations to donate to candidates.
  - packetslave 15y ago
    Ever heard of a PAC?
    - asdfasdghasdf 15y ago
      Not only have I heard of PACs, but I've given to my employer's PAC, which than donated money to the campaigns of 50+ candidates. I don't know if you've participated in the system, but it's not fair to equate that with a corporation donating its own money to a political campaign.
  - pak 15y ago
    There are many ways for a corporation to provide value to a candidate besides a cash donation. Some of these ways can translate readily into cash. For example, insider trading by congresspeople, which apparently is legal. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7388130n http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7388130n http://www.cnbc.com/id/45249857 http://www.cnbc.com/id/45249857

Kroms 15y ago

I'm aware that corporations are involved in politics; you misunderstand me. I mean to say, I find the idea of Google advertising something political so explicitly on their front page a little bit discomforting. The same applies to Wikipedia's decision to go with the "nuclear option", a blackout. It feels like it opens all sorts of doors with nasty implications. But that's just me.

hammerdr 15y ago

Just a minor correction: It is pretty widely accepted hypothesis that politicians do not "corrupt" when they are elected to office but that corporations support politicians which favor their positions. Politicians that have money have legitimacy. Legitimate candidates get elected. Couple that with the fact that corporations often donate to 50+ candidates (on both sides of the aisle) and not only do they have a pre-polling vote (through money) but they also get to play in many elections. It's the house vs. the people and the house always wins.

asdfasdghasdf 15y ago
If you can produce evidence that a corporation has donated to even one candidate, much less 50, the FEC would love to speak to you; it's illegal for corporations to donate to candidates.
- packetslave 15y ago
  Ever heard of a PAC?
  - asdfasdghasdf 15y ago
    Not only have I heard of PACs, but I've given to my employer's PAC, which than donated money to the campaigns of 50+ candidates. I don't know if you've participated in the system, but it's not fair to equate that with a corporation donating its own money to a political campaign.
- pak 15y ago
  There are many ways for a corporation to provide value to a candidate besides a cash donation. Some of these ways can translate readily into cash. For example, insider trading by congresspeople, which apparently is legal. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7388130n http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7388130n http://www.cnbc.com/id/45249857 http://www.cnbc.com/id/45249857