> they aren't agents I think for security purposes they should be treated as agents. If a computer program can access the internet (even just individual people

> they aren't agents I think for security purposes they should be treated as agents. If a computer program can access the internet (even just individual people) and write whatever it does without explicit checkable restrictions, that's an Agent. Perhaps a dumb one, but who knows for how long. In today's society, text completion can do a lot if it's good enough. I'm looking forward to "rationalist" AI cults. Going into a loop sometimes doesn't matter. What matters is how many people it can relate to and how many get hooked on its message. You better expect it to be the message that's most likely to work.