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Henbane was used for all sorts, including brewing. As for the trip… we have it growing wild at our place, and I’ve been schooling myself as a herbalist/botanis

Henbane was used for all sorts, including brewing. As for the trip… we have it growing wild at our place, and I’ve been schooling myself as a herbalist/botanist, mostly for practical purposes. I’ve smoked it and had it in tea. It’s not a “oh wow I want to do that again!” but it’s also not “oh sweet Jesus no”. Floaty, tranquil, visuals not unlike DMT, and a terrible stomach upset. Some locals still use it, as an alternative to hemlock, to stun fish.

pacaro 4y ago
To build in the brewing part, before it was replaced by hops, it was the plant that gave its name "Bilsenkraut" to the city of Pilsen. So not just occasionally used, but significant enough that places where named for it
- culi 4y ago
  Very interesting, thanks. I think there's often a cultural "plant blindness" we have nowadays, but it's hard to overstate how influential many plants have been on all human cultures. One fun thing I found out today: Linnaea is a genus of honeysuckle named after botanist Carl Linnaeus whose name derives from the Swedish lind or linden tree. So it's a plant named after a person named after a plant! I bet I could find a lot more examples like this if I kept digging. I only recently realized how common it is for names to derive from plants and I've had a lot of fun digging into it
- realworldperson 4y ago
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Alex3917 4y ago
> Some locals still use it, as an alternative to hemlock, to stun fish. Why is anyone using Hemlock to stun fish? Given there are dozens of plants that stun fish, it seems odd that folks would use one that's also absurdly toxic to humans.
- culi 4y ago
  Hemlock grows in poorly drained soils (e.g. next to streams) so it's likely very often the nearest plant you can find to use for this purpose
  - Alex3917 4y ago
    Makes sense. I wonder if pawpaw would work. It seems like it might if rotenone works, since they both have the same mechanism of action, but I’ve never seen it listed as a fish poison.
- pvaldes 4y ago
  > Why is anyone using Hemlock to stun fish? Because they are criminals. This is strictly forbidden in most countries. And because they are stupid and like to play with their own health
culi 4y ago
Interesting. I've read it was used in cigarettes in part for its narcotic effects (and to treat asthma) and was wondering if that meant it's hallucinogenic or not From what I understand it can be poisonous if consumed directly. You'd probably get poisoned from directly consuming tobacco leaves too so I wonder if this is a similar situation where smoking is safer than direct consumption Would you describe the experience as a "trip" like other psychedelic plants and fungi?
- madaxe_again 4y ago
  You can get poisoned just by handling tobacco leaves - Green Tobacco Sickness. I had it as a kid after playing in a wet tobacco field - I honestly thought I was going to die. And yes, it was a trip - but mild in the grand scheme of things.

pacaro 4y ago

To build in the brewing part, before it was replaced by hops, it was the plant that gave its name "Bilsenkraut" to the city of Pilsen. So not just occasionally used, but significant enough that places where named for it

culi 4y ago
Very interesting, thanks. I think there's often a cultural "plant blindness" we have nowadays, but it's hard to overstate how influential many plants have been on all human cultures. One fun thing I found out today: Linnaea is a genus of honeysuckle named after botanist Carl Linnaeus whose name derives from the Swedish lind or linden tree. So it's a plant named after a person named after a plant! I bet I could find a lot more examples like this if I kept digging. I only recently realized how common it is for names to derive from plants and I've had a lot of fun digging into it
realworldperson 4y ago
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Alex3917 4y ago

> Some locals still use it, as an alternative to hemlock, to stun fish. Why is anyone using Hemlock to stun fish? Given there are dozens of plants that stun fish, it seems odd that folks would use one that's also absurdly toxic to humans.

culi 4y ago
Hemlock grows in poorly drained soils (e.g. next to streams) so it's likely very often the nearest plant you can find to use for this purpose
- Alex3917 4y ago
  Makes sense. I wonder if pawpaw would work. It seems like it might if rotenone works, since they both have the same mechanism of action, but I’ve never seen it listed as a fish poison.
pvaldes 4y ago
> Why is anyone using Hemlock to stun fish? Because they are criminals. This is strictly forbidden in most countries. And because they are stupid and like to play with their own health

culi 4y ago

Interesting. I've read it was used in cigarettes in part for its narcotic effects (and to treat asthma) and was wondering if that meant it's hallucinogenic or not From what I understand it can be poisonous if consumed directly. You'd probably get poisoned from directly consuming tobacco leaves too so I wonder if this is a similar situation where smoking is safer than direct consumption Would you describe the experience as a "trip" like other psychedelic plants and fungi?

madaxe_again 4y ago
You can get poisoned just by handling tobacco leaves - Green Tobacco Sickness. I had it as a kid after playing in a wet tobacco field - I honestly thought I was going to die. And yes, it was a trip - but mild in the grand scheme of things.