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Surely this is not the world's slowest declaration of war? Whoever country is sending whatever these artificial objects are, what can they possibly gain from t
by Multicomp 4y ago
Surely this is not the world's slowest declaration of war?
Whoever country is sending whatever these artificial objects are, what can they possibly gain from this?
- ajsnigrutin 4y agoI was joking in the other thread, that soon people will be buying weather baloons and setting them off "for the lulz" (youtube videos, tiktok, or whatever) :)
- ALittleLight 4y agoI would watch a TikTok of "F22 shoots down my balloon."
- mmerlin 4y agoTikTok is like a spy balloon in your own phone (assuming the 100% clipboard-exfiltration-at-all-times and other data harvesting reports are true). Ironic if people are being spied upon by TikTok whilst watching a spy balloon video.
- stirfish 4y agoI would watch an F-22 shoot down my phone. That's a good point though - people seem more worked up about the data collection balloon than they are about the little data collector in their pockets.
- jamiek88 4y agoassuming the 100% clipboard-exfiltration-at-all-times and other data harvesting reports are true Woah! Even on iOS?
- quenix 4y agoNah. I remember this went viral at a point when the first developer betas of iOS 14 (or was if 13?) came out and IOS started reporting clipboard accesses. For a while during those early betas, it seemed TikTok was accessing the clipboard every few minutes. Apparently it turned out to be innocuous—the app qas checking for TikTok links on the clipboard to show them to the user? Something like that. Other apps had the same issue (I think Telegram comes to mind?)
- ajsnigrutin 4y agoTelegram doesn't do that, atleast not for me, since android reports (via toaster popup) clipboard access now too.
- quenix 4y agoYes, I forgot to mention that this was a transient issue which got fixed by most apps (including tiktok) some time ago.
- ajsnigrutin 4y agohttps://streamable.com/etkpd0 https://streamable.com/etkpd0 we're not far :D
- zabzonk 4y agousa vs canada! it has happened before.
- ineedasername 4y agoPig War 2.0!
- enra 4y agoCould be for observing the response of US. Russia did, and I guess still does, this a lot. Flying their planes constantly in European airspace to see if what the response is and also make it more normal occurrence. If they one day attack it’s harder to tell if this again one of those random times or an actual attack
- partiallypro 4y agoThat is one of the reasons the US left the Open Skies treaty, Russia kept breaking the agreement doing things like that making the entire thing a handicap to the US.
- hindsightbias 4y agoTrolling is cheap
- drekipus 4y agoTrolling is a art
- lsh123 4y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Genetrix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Genetrix
- whoisthemachine 4y ago> The Soviets recovered many of these balloons and their temperature-resistant and radiation-hardened film[8][9][10] would later be used in the Luna 3 probe to capture the first images of the far side of the Moon. Poetic.
- lsh123 4y agoOh, there is more. For example, in late 70s Soviets built a special purpose plane to hunt balloons: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/the-soviets-built-bespoke-balloon-killer-planes-during-the-cold-war https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/the-soviets-built-besp...
- bullfightonmars 4y agoWar? Chill with the historonics. Surveillance is not war.
- bagels 4y agoShooting missiles at aircraft can be though.
- garyfirestorm 4y ago‘Perceived Threat’
- howinteresting 4y agoI think it's more "part of the game" than a declaration of war.
- JohnBooty 4y agoShooting at unidentified and nonresponsive unmanned aircraft over your own airspace has never, ever been considered an act of aggression. That is a ridiculous suggestion.
- crystalmeph 4y agoI don’t know exactly how fast the air currents at 40,000-60,000 feet will drive a balloon, but I would assume that this most recent balloon was already airborne by the time the previous one was discovered. As long as they don’t launch anymore starting last week, this particular episode should wind down peacefully. As to why use balloons instead of satellites, the most reasonable speculation I’ve seen is that they’re collecting signals intelligence (radio traffic, etc.) which is not accessible from orbital distances.
- LarryMullins 4y agoLarge controllable balloons could probably be 'recalled' by instructing them to crash into the ocean. If any more big ones like the first balloon show up, it's probably on purpose.
- crystalmeph 4y agoI was wondering why China wouldn’t include a self-destruct feature. My daughter pointed out that crashing into a US city, even unintentionally, would probably be seen as even more hostile than sending the balloon in the first place. You obviously could choose to self destruct in a remote area or over water, but they may well have considered the escalation risk to be too high if they added potentially destructive capabilities.
- ksherlock 4y agoReportedly the NC balloon did have explosives to self destruct.
- hoppyhoppy2 4y agoWho is reporting this?
- kps 4y agoWSJ, linked in another comment on this post, “The craft came outfitted with small explosives to disable the surveillance equipment, an official said, though they weren’t detonated.” https://archive.is/oORem#selection-677.0-677.133 https://archive.is/oORem#selection-677.0-677.133
- dqpb 4y agoI propose we launch our own balloons, with razor blades. Last balloon wins. World's slowest war.
- andrewflnr 4y agoActually, though, sling some detcord over the enemy balloon and set it off... (I don't know if detcord really works like that, but I'm pretty sure razor blades won't do the job either. :D)