Sorry, I was not being anti-winery, just pro-statistics. Yes, this is the study: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(18)30134-X/ful

Sorry, I was not being anti-winery, just pro-statistics. Yes, this is the study: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(18)30134-X/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... For individuals the stats are as you referred. This is different thing than consumption in a population - if you increase the consumption in population only slightly it means some people will increase their consumption more and some less - and for those who increase their consumption more the mortality effects likely get worse. However, as an additional data point, Canada updated just their recommendation of safe levels to two drinks per week or less https://ccsa.ca/canadas-guidance-alcohol-and-health https://ccsa.ca/canadas-guidance-alcohol-and-health. If we observe the statistics of global alcohol deaths by country, there is a ridiculously high variance of death from alcohol https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/alcohol/by-country/ https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/alcohol/b... If you are from one of the low-drink-mortality countries then statistically I'm pretty sure alcohol in your reference population is far less mortality inducing than for example in my reference population (Finland) and I guess if the lancet type stats were collected from each country the number of "safe drinks per week" as a function of excess mortality would be quite different. I guess your family is quite good at handling their drinking, but globally alcohol is quite lethal - according to WHO 3 million deaths per year (https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/alcohol https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/alcohol). This is in same range as reported covid deaths in 2020 (3M) https://www.who.int/data/stories/the-true-death-toll-of-covid-19-estimating-global-excess-mortality https://www.who.int/data/stories/the-true-death-toll-of-covi.... So alcohol roughly kills as many people per year as a global pandemic that just locked down half of the world for two years. But as we perceived from the above mortality-per-country chart, this is not evenly distributed by a long shot. My intention was not to moralize, just to be clear headed about the stats. But the stats for an individual are quite different depending where you drink, I guess. I've never met anyone so passionate about drinking who was not addicted to it. It's fun to realize a person can be passionate about it as a cultural and family tradition as well. Yes, I've met many an alcoholic, sadly. High mortality alcohol death country. In my reference population alcohol is quite lethal. That does not stop me from enjoying my drink now and then but I'm pretty coolheaded about the stats. I realize you zeal came from a family tradition and this was a huge cultural misunderstanding - I wish well to your tradition and hope a plentiful next harvest :)