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> This makes no sense. If you don't take population into the comparison of absolute numbers, you're not learning anything. The same applies to monetary losses.

> This makes no sense. If you don't take population into the comparison of absolute numbers, you're not learning anything. The same applies to monetary losses. If you don't take the total amount of dollars invested into account, "dollar amount lost" is useless. Two people could lose $1000 each, one has a billion dollar, the other one has 1001. Are they equally affected? > As for China I will probably have to concede the win in case you are referring to the Uyghurs, because the number of Uyghurs in concentration camps worse than Auschwitz must surely number in the hundreds of millions now, if the rhetoric of the anti-China crowd is any indication. You don't need to. China's prison population is equal to that of the US, excluding the Uigurs. Include those and it doubles it. And from what is known, China is a lot harder on their prisoners than the US. I've never understood tankies that go to insane lengths to justify and defend ex-communist countries, while they'll equally claim that "it wasn't real communism". Why defend it then?

avgcorrection 4y ago
> You don't need to. China's prison population is equal to that of the US, excluding the Uigurs. Include those and it doubles it. And from what is known, China is a lot harder on their prisoners than the US. So less prisoners per capita. > I've never understood tankies that go to insane lengths to justify and defend ex-communist countries, while they'll equally claim that "it wasn't real communism". Why defend it then? Am I supposed to answer this?
- luckylion 4y ago
  > So less prisoners per capita. Aha, suddenly you want to go all "per capita" instead of "total amount"? Yeah, I think we've reached the end here. If I bring up North Korea again, you'll say "yeah, but it's less in total amount" and we'll just spin in circles. Again, I don't get it. I'd love to understand what can be done to get people to not hold on to some ideology for dear life, but I guess you can't ask a fish why he has gills.
  - avgcorrection 4y ago
    > Aha, suddenly you want to go all "per capita" instead of "total amount"? Yeah, I think we've reached the end here. If I bring up North Korea again, you'll say "yeah, but it's less in total amount" and we'll just spin in circles. My mistake. I forgot the thread for a moment. > Again, I don't get it. I'd love to understand what can be done to get people to not hold on to some ideology for dear life, but I guess you can't ask a fish why he has gills. You don’t know what my ideology is.

avgcorrection 4y ago

> You don't need to. China's prison population is equal to that of the US, excluding the Uigurs. Include those and it doubles it. And from what is known, China is a lot harder on their prisoners than the US. So less prisoners per capita. > I've never understood tankies that go to insane lengths to justify and defend ex-communist countries, while they'll equally claim that "it wasn't real communism". Why defend it then? Am I supposed to answer this?

luckylion 4y ago
> So less prisoners per capita. Aha, suddenly you want to go all "per capita" instead of "total amount"? Yeah, I think we've reached the end here. If I bring up North Korea again, you'll say "yeah, but it's less in total amount" and we'll just spin in circles. Again, I don't get it. I'd love to understand what can be done to get people to not hold on to some ideology for dear life, but I guess you can't ask a fish why he has gills.
- avgcorrection 4y ago
  > Aha, suddenly you want to go all "per capita" instead of "total amount"? Yeah, I think we've reached the end here. If I bring up North Korea again, you'll say "yeah, but it's less in total amount" and we'll just spin in circles. My mistake. I forgot the thread for a moment. > Again, I don't get it. I'd love to understand what can be done to get people to not hold on to some ideology for dear life, but I guess you can't ask a fish why he has gills. You don’t know what my ideology is.