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These are actually the same engine underneath, though, aren't they? Just with slightly different prompts? (at least that's what the Bing AI prompt leak from the

These are actually the same engine underneath, though, aren't they? Just with slightly different prompts? (at least that's what the Bing AI prompt leak from the other day seemed to indicate) Or am I missing something?

delusional 4y ago
The bing ai can search the internet and gets some sort of dynamic prompt context injected. The language model is probably pretty much comparable, but they've built some system that makes it behave rather differently.
- NoZebra120vClip 4y ago
  You wrote "search the internet" but what Bing really does is "query indices created by Bing's web crawling agents as they trawled live, reachable web pages around the Internet", which is a remarkably different data set than the one you suggest.
  - delusional 4y ago
    I don't quite understand how that's any different from what I'm saying. If i had to naively design this system I'd probably prompt the AI to somehow tell me if it wanted more information. Then I'd go to my regular search engine, input whatever the AI wanted to know something about, and feed whatever my search engine came up with back into the AI through the context for another synthesis step. It seems to me like that would be covered under "query indices created by Bing's web crawling agents as they trawled live, reachable web pages around the Internet" because that's also what the regular Bing search engine does. I suppose one could argue that it's not really searching the web, but rather the Bing index which is then derived from the web. That really seems like a pointless distinction since you're just using the web index to leverage the preexisting engineering work to extract meaningful content.
ma2rten 4y ago
During the Microsoft presentation they said "This is a new built from the ground up with search in mind" or something to that effect. But it's unclear what that means exactly.

delusional 4y ago

The bing ai can search the internet and gets some sort of dynamic prompt context injected. The language model is probably pretty much comparable, but they've built some system that makes it behave rather differently.

NoZebra120vClip 4y ago
You wrote "search the internet" but what Bing really does is "query indices created by Bing's web crawling agents as they trawled live, reachable web pages around the Internet", which is a remarkably different data set than the one you suggest.
- delusional 4y ago
  I don't quite understand how that's any different from what I'm saying. If i had to naively design this system I'd probably prompt the AI to somehow tell me if it wanted more information. Then I'd go to my regular search engine, input whatever the AI wanted to know something about, and feed whatever my search engine came up with back into the AI through the context for another synthesis step. It seems to me like that would be covered under "query indices created by Bing's web crawling agents as they trawled live, reachable web pages around the Internet" because that's also what the regular Bing search engine does. I suppose one could argue that it's not really searching the web, but rather the Bing index which is then derived from the web. That really seems like a pointless distinction since you're just using the web index to leverage the preexisting engineering work to extract meaningful content.

ma2rten 4y ago

During the Microsoft presentation they said "This is a new built from the ground up with search in mind" or something to that effect. But it's unclear what that means exactly.