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Edit: I’ve changed my mind, I agree with the union.

by legutierr 4y ago

ramphastidae 4y ago
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- dang 4y ago
  That is nasty and crosses into personal attack, which is not cool. Please don't post like this again. You can make your substantive points without getting aggressive; please do that instead. We've had to ask you not to break the site guidelines before. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
  - ramphastidae 4y ago
    Ok, sorry about that.
upsidesinclude 4y ago
This is not logical. Interesting to see how the escalation works in someones thought process, but these are not valid arguements. "If you have nothing to hide, you dont need privacy" Perhaps there are antiquated rules and possibly dangerous flight systems approved by the FAA. Maybe these pilots need to be protected from being publicly persecuted in the interest of corporate profit and confidence in the government.
- legutierr 4y ago
  You’re right, I’ve changed my mind.
  - brookst 4y ago
    Do defense attorneys “stand in the way” of justice?
    - deleted 4y ago
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    - sandworm101 4y ago
      Yes. If justice means a criminal going to jail, defense attorneys do stand up and fight tooth and claw to prevent that happening. That is thier job. It is the job of the prosecution, the government, to overcome and enforce justice.
      - brookst 4y ago
        I don’t think that’s what justice means. Justice means that only people who a jury believes are guilty of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt go to jail. Defense attorneys serve that definition of justice. One could argue that prosecutors stand in the way of justice because their job is to put someone in jail regardless of whether they are truly guilty. In reality, the adversarial system is justice.
  - upsidesinclude 4y ago
    Yes, well done. That's reason at its best.
axiolite 4y ago
> why would the union have any problem with the NTSB interviewing them? They don't. You sometimes have to read more than just the HN headline to understand what the issues are.
siva7 4y ago
Because a good union sides with it's members. That's how they get members in the future otherwise why would anyone sign up?

Edit: I’ve changed my mind, I agree with the union.

ramphastidae 4y ago

[flagged]

dang 4y ago
That is nasty and crosses into personal attack, which is not cool. Please don't post like this again. You can make your substantive points without getting aggressive; please do that instead. We've had to ask you not to break the site guidelines before. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
- ramphastidae 4y ago
  Ok, sorry about that.

upsidesinclude 4y ago

This is not logical. Interesting to see how the escalation works in someones thought process, but these are not valid arguements. "If you have nothing to hide, you dont need privacy" Perhaps there are antiquated rules and possibly dangerous flight systems approved by the FAA. Maybe these pilots need to be protected from being publicly persecuted in the interest of corporate profit and confidence in the government.

legutierr 4y ago
You’re right, I’ve changed my mind.
- brookst 4y ago
  Do defense attorneys “stand in the way” of justice?
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - sandworm101 4y ago
    Yes. If justice means a criminal going to jail, defense attorneys do stand up and fight tooth and claw to prevent that happening. That is thier job. It is the job of the prosecution, the government, to overcome and enforce justice.
    - brookst 4y ago
      I don’t think that’s what justice means. Justice means that only people who a jury believes are guilty of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt go to jail. Defense attorneys serve that definition of justice. One could argue that prosecutors stand in the way of justice because their job is to put someone in jail regardless of whether they are truly guilty. In reality, the adversarial system is justice.
- upsidesinclude 4y ago
  Yes, well done. That's reason at its best.

axiolite 4y ago

> why would the union have any problem with the NTSB interviewing them? They don't. You sometimes have to read more than just the HN headline to understand what the issues are.

siva7 4y ago

Because a good union sides with it's members. That's how they get members in the future otherwise why would anyone sign up?