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Do you post on liberal sources "Disclaimer: this comes from a liberal source" too? If you're not doing it uniformly, regardless of bias, then yes, you are poiso

Do you post on liberal sources "Disclaimer: this comes from a liberal source" too? If you're not doing it uniformly, regardless of bias, then yes, you are poisoning the well.

bitwize 4y ago
There is far, far more reason to be worried about sources on the right than there is sources on the left. Right-aligned sources are much more likely to deny science, to skew information in a way that benefits corporate benefactors, and to contain bias against marginalized groups such as LGBTQ and even women.
- pibechorro 4y ago
  You are biased. You are poison to the well.
- mshake2 4y ago
  There it is.
- yucky 4y ago
  Not sure I agree about the right being more likely to deny science, considering the way discussion around gender seems to work. I'm still trying to find out just how many there are, but nobody knows. Of course, we're not allowed to really discuss that though. Not sure that's very scientific..
  - krapp 4y ago
    Gender is a social construct[0], it is not defined by biological sex, although due to societal norms it often correlates, and can be influenced, by biological sex. What isn't scientific (as is, no longer valid in scientific consensus[0]) is the premise that gender and biological sex are synonymous, and that, as your comment implies, transgender or nonbinary identity is a denial of science. Just in case you're going to jump on to the title of the third article i posted below, note that it says gender is not just a social construct, rather than that it isn't such at all. I'll quote an excerpt from that article: Evidence that gender has some basis in biology, though, in no way implies a strict gender binary, nor negates the existence of transgender and non-binary identities. Many biology-based gender differences originate from the hormonal environment within the womb, which is very different on average for boys compared to girls. But there’s a huge variation in these environments, says Alice Eagly, psychology professor at Northwestern University. “Within boys there will be a range and within girls there will be a range. To say it’s biological doesn’t mean it’s perfectly binary,” she says. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction [1]https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/what-do-we-mean-by-sex-and-gender/ https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/what-do-we-mean-by-se... [2]https://qz.com/1190996/scientific-research-shows-gender-is-not-just-a-social-construct https://qz.com/1190996/scientific-research-shows-gender-is-n...
    - leereeves 4y ago
      Some people are trying to restrict the word "gender" for political purposes, but it also continues to be used as a synonym of biological sex, a meaning that it has had for centuries. > In the 15th century gender expanded from its use as a term for a grammatical subclass to join sex in referring to either of the two primary biological forms of a species, a meaning sex has had since the 14th century https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gender https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gender
      - hairofadog 4y ago
        It changed in the 15th century, and it’s changing now. Language is like that.
        leereeves 4y ago
        I agree, it's not a new phenomenon, language changes all the time. But while some language changes rise from the people, others (like this one) are dictated by powerful institutions. Orwell described it well about 100 years ago. Change the meaning of words to make disagreement impossible. Newspeak "designed to diminish the range of thought".
        hairofadog 4y ago
        eyeroll
        leereeves 4y ago
        Nothing constructive to say? Are you here to discuss this topic, or to prevent discussion?
        bitwize 4y ago
        It means "I can't fruitfully discuss this topic with someone who is stuck in an ideological local maximum". Transgender identity and acknowledgement of the fluid, multidimensional nature of gender IS NOT a conspiracy to take your precious bodily fluids. Don't believe me? Go to San Francisco and try meeting some of the "co-conspirators" -- transgender men and women on the skids, having to turn to professions like sex work, because they ran from their conservative families fearing for their FUCKING LIVES. Living on the edges of society and the law, having to develop their own biopunk parallel medical support because legitimate medicine won't treat them in the way that they need, all to survive in a society that simply wishes they didn't exist because them existing violates a false foundational premise of society: that gender is binary and corresponds to physical sex. But I've said too much. eyeroll is all the response you deserve.

Do you post on liberal sources "Disclaimer: this comes from a liberal source" too? If you're not doing it uniformly, regardless of bias, then yes, you are poisoning the well.

bitwize 4y ago

There is far, far more reason to be worried about sources on the right than there is sources on the left. Right-aligned sources are much more likely to deny science, to skew information in a way that benefits corporate benefactors, and to contain bias against marginalized groups such as LGBTQ and even women.

pibechorro 4y ago
You are biased. You are poison to the well.
mshake2 4y ago
There it is.
yucky 4y ago
Not sure I agree about the right being more likely to deny science, considering the way discussion around gender seems to work. I'm still trying to find out just how many there are, but nobody knows. Of course, we're not allowed to really discuss that though. Not sure that's very scientific..
- krapp 4y ago
  Gender is a social construct[0], it is not defined by biological sex, although due to societal norms it often correlates, and can be influenced, by biological sex. What isn't scientific (as is, no longer valid in scientific consensus[0]) is the premise that gender and biological sex are synonymous, and that, as your comment implies, transgender or nonbinary identity is a denial of science. Just in case you're going to jump on to the title of the third article i posted below, note that it says gender is not just a social construct, rather than that it isn't such at all. I'll quote an excerpt from that article: Evidence that gender has some basis in biology, though, in no way implies a strict gender binary, nor negates the existence of transgender and non-binary identities. Many biology-based gender differences originate from the hormonal environment within the womb, which is very different on average for boys compared to girls. But there’s a huge variation in these environments, says Alice Eagly, psychology professor at Northwestern University. “Within boys there will be a range and within girls there will be a range. To say it’s biological doesn’t mean it’s perfectly binary,” she says. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction [1]https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/what-do-we-mean-by-sex-and-gender/ https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/what-do-we-mean-by-se... [2]https://qz.com/1190996/scientific-research-shows-gender-is-not-just-a-social-construct https://qz.com/1190996/scientific-research-shows-gender-is-n...
  - leereeves 4y ago
    Some people are trying to restrict the word "gender" for political purposes, but it also continues to be used as a synonym of biological sex, a meaning that it has had for centuries. > In the 15th century gender expanded from its use as a term for a grammatical subclass to join sex in referring to either of the two primary biological forms of a species, a meaning sex has had since the 14th century https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gender https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gender
    - hairofadog 4y ago
      It changed in the 15th century, and it’s changing now. Language is like that.
      - leereeves 4y ago
        I agree, it's not a new phenomenon, language changes all the time. But while some language changes rise from the people, others (like this one) are dictated by powerful institutions. Orwell described it well about 100 years ago. Change the meaning of words to make disagreement impossible. Newspeak "designed to diminish the range of thought".
        hairofadog 4y ago
        eyeroll
        leereeves 4y ago
        Nothing constructive to say? Are you here to discuss this topic, or to prevent discussion?
        bitwize 4y ago
        It means "I can't fruitfully discuss this topic with someone who is stuck in an ideological local maximum". Transgender identity and acknowledgement of the fluid, multidimensional nature of gender IS NOT a conspiracy to take your precious bodily fluids. Don't believe me? Go to San Francisco and try meeting some of the "co-conspirators" -- transgender men and women on the skids, having to turn to professions like sex work, because they ran from their conservative families fearing for their FUCKING LIVES. Living on the edges of society and the law, having to develop their own biopunk parallel medical support because legitimate medicine won't treat them in the way that they need, all to survive in a society that simply wishes they didn't exist because them existing violates a false foundational premise of society: that gender is binary and corresponds to physical sex. But I've said too much. eyeroll is all the response you deserve.