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>Of the 89 neighborhoods considered, only nine are “15-minute neighborhoods” walkable for 90% or more of their residents. I'd love to see the median rent in th

>Of the 89 neighborhoods considered, only nine are “15-minute neighborhoods” walkable for 90% or more of their residents. I'd love to see the median rent in those nine compared to elsewhere in the city. Can any Seattle residents here provide some insight?

WaxProlix 4y ago
Downtown (CBD): Expensive International District: Euphemism for Chinatown, not expensive Pioneer Square: It varies, but fairly expensive despite the rampant homelessness Pike Place Market: Very expensive Ballard: Expensive new buildings, more affordable older ones Capitol Hill: Expensive, generally South Lake Union: Expensive Madrona: Expensive
- chamanbuga 4y ago
  Living in ID is not a choice, but a necessity when other options fail.
  - balls187 4y ago
    Until it gets gentrified like previous neighborhoods. Other neighborhoods missing: Fremont Wallingford Georgetown Columbia City Rainer Beach Northgate W. Seattle Queen Anne Belltown Magnolia S. Seattle Ravenna Beacon Hill South Park Leschi Madison Park Northlake Greenwood And a bunch more places that non-transplants know about...
    - simplyluke 4y ago
      I'm familiar with all of these neighborhoods as a < 5 year transplant, and several are not particularly walkable neighborhoods, certainly not by the definition proposed in the article. This is an odd thing to gatekeep on.
    - lazyasciiart 4y ago
      Missing from what? Pretty sure they were all listed in the article.
- Rediscover 4y ago
  > Pike Place Market: Very exspensive. And also extremely on the other side - Market housing can be very low-cost. A number of my friends are paying < $300/month for some nice/decent apartments with a very long wait-list. Cf: the apartments under the Market and Stewart House.
  - lazyasciiart 4y ago
    That’s income restricted senior housing, isn’t it?
- wenc 4y ago
  > International District: Euphemism for Chinatown, not expensive It’s not a euphemism. Euphemism refers to a word that conceals something unpleasant or embarrassing. It is anything but. It is working class yes but nothing wrong with that. The full name (since 1999) is Chinatown-ID. The majority of the inhabitants are Chinese but it encompasses Little Saigon and the less prominent but still existing Japantown (Uwajimaya and several Japanese businesses still have a presence).
  - WaxProlix 4y ago
    You are technically correct, the most socially isolating kind of correct. If you can think of a word with different, or fewer connotations I'll gladly swap it in. Mea culpa for the hasty pasting, though.
    - wenc 4y ago
      I appreciate the reply and suggest just stating that it is Chinatown-International District with no additional adjectives other than expensive (or not) like you did with the other neighborhoods listed. I have a connection with the C-ID and it is a neighborhood like any other and is in my opinion one of the more vibrant neighborhoods food-wise in Seattle despite (or due to it?) being working class.
      - WaxProlix 4y ago
        I lived there myself and love it, and wouldn't want to cast aspersions. Fell in love with spicy soups and banh mi. Not all of us were 18 year old college students straight into the 6 figure lifestyle, you know?
lazyasciiart 4y ago
Madrona probably doesn’t have anywhere to rent, it’s just enormous old houses. 6 of the 9 are downtown+surrounds, all very expensive. Ballard and Green Lake are going to be the cheapest on the list, and I would guess they’re in the most expensive quarter of neighborhoods?
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lph 4y ago
It's not about rent so much as density. Seattle has this "urban village" concept where designated areas have zoning that allows apartment buildings and usually has a commercial strip. I'd guess the urban village map [1] overlaps the 15-minute zones pretty closely. Outside of the urban villages, Seattle is comprised of neighborhoods of single-family homes. Those areas can't all be 15-minute walkable because catchement areas don't have the population needed to support those amenities. But it's also certainly a class issue. The people walking to the grocery store are mainly the poor, students, and a small core of idealists who go out of their way to live a "city lifestyle". Everybody else drives everywhere. Which has a strange effect that wealthier neighborhoods are less likely to have things like a pharmacy, because the wealthier are in the habit of driving everywhere. I get my prescriptions filled at Costco, five miles from my house, even though the closest pharmacy is one mile. [1] https://i.pinimg.com/736x/87/cd/9f/87cd9ffd44c33154445747de37a09476.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/736x/87/cd/9f/87cd9ffd44c33154445747de3...

WaxProlix 4y ago

Downtown (CBD): Expensive International District: Euphemism for Chinatown, not expensive Pioneer Square: It varies, but fairly expensive despite the rampant homelessness Pike Place Market: Very expensive Ballard: Expensive new buildings, more affordable older ones Capitol Hill: Expensive, generally South Lake Union: Expensive Madrona: Expensive

chamanbuga 4y ago
Living in ID is not a choice, but a necessity when other options fail.
- balls187 4y ago
  Until it gets gentrified like previous neighborhoods. Other neighborhoods missing: Fremont Wallingford Georgetown Columbia City Rainer Beach Northgate W. Seattle Queen Anne Belltown Magnolia S. Seattle Ravenna Beacon Hill South Park Leschi Madison Park Northlake Greenwood And a bunch more places that non-transplants know about...
  - simplyluke 4y ago
    I'm familiar with all of these neighborhoods as a < 5 year transplant, and several are not particularly walkable neighborhoods, certainly not by the definition proposed in the article. This is an odd thing to gatekeep on.
  - lazyasciiart 4y ago
    Missing from what? Pretty sure they were all listed in the article.
Rediscover 4y ago
> Pike Place Market: Very exspensive. And also extremely on the other side - Market housing can be very low-cost. A number of my friends are paying < $300/month for some nice/decent apartments with a very long wait-list. Cf: the apartments under the Market and Stewart House.
- lazyasciiart 4y ago
  That’s income restricted senior housing, isn’t it?
wenc 4y ago
> International District: Euphemism for Chinatown, not expensive It’s not a euphemism. Euphemism refers to a word that conceals something unpleasant or embarrassing. It is anything but. It is working class yes but nothing wrong with that. The full name (since 1999) is Chinatown-ID. The majority of the inhabitants are Chinese but it encompasses Little Saigon and the less prominent but still existing Japantown (Uwajimaya and several Japanese businesses still have a presence).
- WaxProlix 4y ago
  You are technically correct, the most socially isolating kind of correct. If you can think of a word with different, or fewer connotations I'll gladly swap it in. Mea culpa for the hasty pasting, though.
  - wenc 4y ago
    I appreciate the reply and suggest just stating that it is Chinatown-International District with no additional adjectives other than expensive (or not) like you did with the other neighborhoods listed. I have a connection with the C-ID and it is a neighborhood like any other and is in my opinion one of the more vibrant neighborhoods food-wise in Seattle despite (or due to it?) being working class.
    - WaxProlix 4y ago
      I lived there myself and love it, and wouldn't want to cast aspersions. Fell in love with spicy soups and banh mi. Not all of us were 18 year old college students straight into the 6 figure lifestyle, you know?

lazyasciiart 4y ago

Madrona probably doesn’t have anywhere to rent, it’s just enormous old houses. 6 of the 9 are downtown+surrounds, all very expensive. Ballard and Green Lake are going to be the cheapest on the list, and I would guess they’re in the most expensive quarter of neighborhoods?

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lph 4y ago

It's not about rent so much as density. Seattle has this "urban village" concept where designated areas have zoning that allows apartment buildings and usually has a commercial strip. I'd guess the urban village map [1] overlaps the 15-minute zones pretty closely. Outside of the urban villages, Seattle is comprised of neighborhoods of single-family homes. Those areas can't all be 15-minute walkable because catchement areas don't have the population needed to support those amenities. But it's also certainly a class issue. The people walking to the grocery store are mainly the poor, students, and a small core of idealists who go out of their way to live a "city lifestyle". Everybody else drives everywhere. Which has a strange effect that wealthier neighborhoods are less likely to have things like a pharmacy, because the wealthier are in the habit of driving everywhere. I get my prescriptions filled at Costco, five miles from my house, even though the closest pharmacy is one mile. [1] https://i.pinimg.com/736x/87/cd/9f/87cd9ffd44c33154445747de37a09476.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/736x/87/cd/9f/87cd9ffd44c33154445747de3...