I do understand what you mean abou complexity creep, and hope it doesn't happen, but also fear that it might in due time. The thing about GAT is that it was ne

I do understand what you mean abou complexity creep, and hope it doesn't happen, but also fear that it might in due time. The thing about GAT is that it was never meant to be a feature. It just removes a non-obvious limitation from the language. I remember when learning Rust, I expected "GAT syntax" to just work, and was surprised when it didn't. So, for me it makes the language less arcane. > Perhaps I'm worried I'm just not smart enough to be a Rust programmer. I think everyone can learn anything. It's just a matter of finding the right angle to understand a concept. If something hasn't click, force yourself to use those parts until they do. > Off topic: I also find the Rust community unwelcoming and very clique-ish, I get the very strong "you're not apart of the cool gang" vibes and I'm too old to care to navigate this. Ah maybe. I've not experienced this personally, but I've seen others make similar claims. It's generally aways very welcoming from what I've seen. There's the occasional smartass on their Discord, but that's just... Discord Things(TM). People ignore them, and if they're obnoxious they get called out and asked to chill out a bit. Out of curiosity, what are your main interaction channels/places with the community? Maybe you just accidentally navigated into ones that don't suit you personally