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As a hobby software engineer who mostly writes ETL jobs in Python the biggest selling point of Rust is Cargo. I usually use a lot of .clone() in my code and mos

As a hobby software engineer who mostly writes ETL jobs in Python the biggest selling point of Rust is Cargo. I usually use a lot of .clone() in my code and most of my fields are Strings which would make a seasoned Rust/C++ laugh at the code. However, the performance of novice Rust beats 10+ years of experience Python by a factor of 10 (favouring Rust). With Cargo I can build code that just runs. With Python it is always a gamble. Different arch? You need to install different packages to compile the C/C++/Fortran code if the library author did not care about WHL. Starting up an application always a gamble, do we have all the deps? Did we miss some? And so on. With Rust + Cargo I have confidence that the executable runs. Yes, the compilation is an extra step, but I would have that trade every single time for extra safety and reliability.

ghostwriter 4y ago
> As a hobby software engineer who mostly writes ETL jobs in Python the biggest selling point of Rust is Cargo. I usually use a lot of .clone() in my code and most of my fields are Strings which would make a seasoned Rust/C++ laugh at the code. [...] Yes, the compilation is an extra step, but I would have that trade every single time for extra safety and reliability. It sounds like you'd be better off with higher-level Haskell for these tasks.
- StreamBright 4y ago
  Absolutely not. The last time I have tried Haskell it was failing some pretty basic tasks. The JSON library required to be re-compiled for some reason and it used 20+G of RAM when the build crashed. The community is flat out hostile towards Mac users and a basic request was closed with a comment that Mac is a broken platform and it should not be used. I do not have time for these, Rust offers a much better experience and the community is very helpful even if you are asking silly questions.
  - ghostwriter 4y ago
    > The community is flat out hostile towards Mac users and a basic request was closed with a comment that Mac is a broken platform and it should not be used. Have you got a link to that request?
    - StreamBright 4y ago
      It was years ago, I try to dig up the link on Github but can't even remember which project I was trying to compile. It was about static linking on Mac.

ghostwriter 4y ago

> As a hobby software engineer who mostly writes ETL jobs in Python the biggest selling point of Rust is Cargo. I usually use a lot of .clone() in my code and most of my fields are Strings which would make a seasoned Rust/C++ laugh at the code. [...] Yes, the compilation is an extra step, but I would have that trade every single time for extra safety and reliability. It sounds like you'd be better off with higher-level Haskell for these tasks.

StreamBright 4y ago
Absolutely not. The last time I have tried Haskell it was failing some pretty basic tasks. The JSON library required to be re-compiled for some reason and it used 20+G of RAM when the build crashed. The community is flat out hostile towards Mac users and a basic request was closed with a comment that Mac is a broken platform and it should not be used. I do not have time for these, Rust offers a much better experience and the community is very helpful even if you are asking silly questions.
- ghostwriter 4y ago
  > The community is flat out hostile towards Mac users and a basic request was closed with a comment that Mac is a broken platform and it should not be used. Have you got a link to that request?
  - StreamBright 4y ago
    It was years ago, I try to dig up the link on Github but can't even remember which project I was trying to compile. It was about static linking on Mac.