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Kickstarter can say whatever they want in their FAQ. It doesn't change the law. It doesn't change the contracts they signed with Amazon. It doesn't change th
by nirvana 15y ago
Kickstarter can say whatever they want in their FAQ. It doesn't change the law. It doesn't change the contracts they signed with Amazon. It doesn't change the contract Amazon signed with the credit card companies. It doesn't change the FTC regulations for sales. It doesn't change the fact that this product was advertised for sale, explicitly. Further, nothing in this indicates that it was a "donation" or on the "honor" system, nor absolves kickstarter of liability for being a party to fraud, either morally or legally.
I won't be doing any more business with kickstarter because they have shown themselves to not be a trustworthy entity. Not because this guy is late with his deliveries, but because they don't care. They're party to fraud that has gone on for more than a year in other cases, with no signs of delivery. And they don't care.
If you're happy using kickstarter to give money to projects without expecting any kind of a delivery, that's fine for you. Where you're wrong is in telling me I'm wrong, for being upset that a product that was explicitly SOLD to me, was not delivered.
You're telling me to change my perspective. This isn't an issue of perspective. You can give your money away however you like. I'm not telling you your wrong. I am telling you that the fact of the matter is, I was sold a product. I was not solicited for a donation.
Kickstarter is not an entity that is trustworthy with money.
- ThomPete 15y agoOn kickstarter you are an investor not a customer. It doesn't matter how you make your investment. If you don't want the risk, then yes, KickStater is not a place for you.
- dkersten 15y agoI was under the illusion that investment laws are stricter than consumer laws. If I, as a backer on kickstarter, am an investor and not a customer (or donor or whatever), then investment laws apply. Does anyone know what, under such laws, is legally required by a kickstarter project?
- onemoreact 15y agoIANAL However, as I understand unless it's clearly a case of fraud the law treats such things as a loan, because you where not offered stock or a cut of profits ect. If he incorporated, you might at best be able to recover your money from whatever the company's assets are, but you really have minimal recourse that's worth the time investment at this point.