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I think I will buy my first iPhone when they move to USB-C. I bought my first iPad when the Air model started using USB-C. Please keep "MagSafe" (I believe the

I think I will buy my first iPhone when they move to USB-C. I bought my first iPad when the Air model started using USB-C. Please keep "MagSafe" (I believe the iPhone variant is now becoming the standard for Qi 2) on the phones and MacBooks. This is a propriety technology that is worth it (unless there is a future USB-C MagSafe standard?) This seems like a really petty reason to not buy a phone in the grand scheme of things, but having everything on the one cable/standard (despite the internal protocol/capabilities of each device being all over the place) brings me a small amount of joy.

benjiweber 4y ago
There are plenty of usb-c cables with magnetic connections available.
- BigJ1211 4y ago
  Any that are of quality? All the ones I've tried stopped working within a few months. Which is odd, as all my normal cables keep working for years. (Including the standard Apple/Samsung ones that came with my phones. Except for my S8 USB-C cable)
qup 4y ago
I just carry some little tiny adapters that can turn USBC into micro or lightning. The two of them taped together are about 1cm^3. I've thought about attaching them to the cable I usually carry.
nindalf 4y ago
Apple has used the same term to describe the magnetically attached charger to both the iPhone and the iPad. They’re not the same though. Anyway, I don’t think you need to worry on the phone front. Apple released their tech for everyone to use, so all phones will use the MagSafe charging.
coldpie 4y ago
> I think I will buy my first iPhone when they move to USB-C. I bought my first iPhone (13 mini) last year and you're 100% right to feel this way. Having one special cord for this one stupid device is awful. We should throw a worldwide celebration once Lightning is 6 feet under and we can all finally just use one damn cord for everything.
- ascagnel_ 4y ago
  Lightning has always been in this weird place, and it tracks that it'll likely end in a weird place. - it was badly needed when it was introduced, because the 30-pin connector was massive and came with a bunch of trade-offs around water ingress - the prevailing standard at the time, micro-USB, was both a poor user experience (directional connector without enough to distinguish up from down) and had reliability issues (the clips on the connector would wear with time), two issues Lightning solved several years before USB-C was available on the market But since Apple took a bunch of blow-back from users on changing from the 30-pin connector ecosystem, they promised that Lightning would last at least a decade (whether that choice helped or hurt electronic waste, I'm not sure). So even though USB-C has been at a good point for consumer adoption for 3-4 years, Apple has drug their feet. I think they'll be switching to USB-C with the next phone redesign, regardless of what the EU may regulate, just because it's "good enough" relative to Lightning (my only issue is that the device side of USB-C has a "tongue" that can break off, while that task is on the more-easily-replaceable cable side for Lightning).
  - drxzcl 4y ago
    On the other hand, the lightning socket has the springs which fill up with dust and detritus and are a nightmare to keep clean with accidentally bending them. I think USB-C did the right thing, putting the conductors on the expensive part and the spring contracts on the cheap part.
  - cduzz 4y ago
    Apple wasn't helpless to the whims of the USB foundation; if they'd opened the standard it would have been adopted as "the new USB" Instead they made an improved proprietary connector and the rest of the world made a different connector that's got most of the same advantages. The broad thinking is the next device won't have a cable at all, which will be its own torture.
JustSomeNobody 4y ago
Don't get your hopes too high, you may still have to use a proprietary cable: https://9to5mac.com/2023/02/10/iphone-15-usb-c-port-proprietary/ https://9to5mac.com/2023/02/10/iphone-15-usb-c-port-propriet...
TAKEMYMONEY 4y ago
> Please keep "MagSafe" They are, but MagSafe 3.0 connectors will not be compatible with earlier versions

benjiweber 4y ago

There are plenty of usb-c cables with magnetic connections available.

BigJ1211 4y ago
Any that are of quality? All the ones I've tried stopped working within a few months. Which is odd, as all my normal cables keep working for years. (Including the standard Apple/Samsung ones that came with my phones. Except for my S8 USB-C cable)

qup 4y ago

I just carry some little tiny adapters that can turn USBC into micro or lightning. The two of them taped together are about 1cm^3. I've thought about attaching them to the cable I usually carry.

nindalf 4y ago

Apple has used the same term to describe the magnetically attached charger to both the iPhone and the iPad. They’re not the same though. Anyway, I don’t think you need to worry on the phone front. Apple released their tech for everyone to use, so all phones will use the MagSafe charging.

coldpie 4y ago

> I think I will buy my first iPhone when they move to USB-C. I bought my first iPhone (13 mini) last year and you're 100% right to feel this way. Having one special cord for this one stupid device is awful. We should throw a worldwide celebration once Lightning is 6 feet under and we can all finally just use one damn cord for everything.

ascagnel_ 4y ago
Lightning has always been in this weird place, and it tracks that it'll likely end in a weird place. - it was badly needed when it was introduced, because the 30-pin connector was massive and came with a bunch of trade-offs around water ingress - the prevailing standard at the time, micro-USB, was both a poor user experience (directional connector without enough to distinguish up from down) and had reliability issues (the clips on the connector would wear with time), two issues Lightning solved several years before USB-C was available on the market But since Apple took a bunch of blow-back from users on changing from the 30-pin connector ecosystem, they promised that Lightning would last at least a decade (whether that choice helped or hurt electronic waste, I'm not sure). So even though USB-C has been at a good point for consumer adoption for 3-4 years, Apple has drug their feet. I think they'll be switching to USB-C with the next phone redesign, regardless of what the EU may regulate, just because it's "good enough" relative to Lightning (my only issue is that the device side of USB-C has a "tongue" that can break off, while that task is on the more-easily-replaceable cable side for Lightning).
- drxzcl 4y ago
  On the other hand, the lightning socket has the springs which fill up with dust and detritus and are a nightmare to keep clean with accidentally bending them. I think USB-C did the right thing, putting the conductors on the expensive part and the spring contracts on the cheap part.
- cduzz 4y ago
  Apple wasn't helpless to the whims of the USB foundation; if they'd opened the standard it would have been adopted as "the new USB" Instead they made an improved proprietary connector and the rest of the world made a different connector that's got most of the same advantages. The broad thinking is the next device won't have a cable at all, which will be its own torture.

JustSomeNobody 4y ago

Don't get your hopes too high, you may still have to use a proprietary cable: https://9to5mac.com/2023/02/10/iphone-15-usb-c-port-proprietary/ https://9to5mac.com/2023/02/10/iphone-15-usb-c-port-propriet...

TAKEMYMONEY 4y ago

> Please keep "MagSafe" They are, but MagSafe 3.0 connectors will not be compatible with earlier versions