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It seems much more fair to specifically punish those pushing flamewars and trolling, than to punish or ban entire or newer programming languages. Those that ar

by Tozen 4y ago

It seems much more fair to specifically punish those pushing flamewars and trolling, than to punish or ban entire or newer programming languages. Those that are trolling often have post histories of such, are obvious competitors based on their own posted admission and affiliation, are repeatedly spamming the same websites, or even have user names indicating their purposes. It comes off as very odd to have and allow for numerous Rust posts in a day (just using as an obvious example based on today's thread count), yet a thread (out of hundreds to thousands) about other or newer languages are shadowbanned.

dang 4y ago
Yes, that's the point. The issue is flamewar drama. No programming language is banned on HN.
- Tozen 4y ago
  That doesn't appear to be accurate, because threads about V get deleted or shadowbanned. Those instigating the flamewar drama against V, appear to go unpunished. And the same tactics seem to be repeatedly allowed, in nearly any V threads. Detractors and competitors of V will call it vaporware (which is clearly untrue and plain outrageous at this point), call the language a scam or the creator a scammer (clearly untrue, defamatory, and inflammatory), repeatedly spam 2019 xeiaso blog posts, spam old posts to sites where well known detractors and competitors are allowed to gang troll, etc... These actions often go unimpeded and without moderation, where push back or defending against such inflammatory posts get punished and moderator actions. So now, it appears we have a defacto ban against a programming language, for the occasional thread about it. While threads of competing languages are allowed at even the pace of several a day. If they have an issue, it's handled specifically, and not against the entire programming language. To post a thread about V, should be no different than to post one about Python, Go, Rust, or Zig.

by Tozen 4y ago

dang 4y ago

Yes, that's the point. The issue is flamewar drama. No programming language is banned on HN.

Tozen 4y ago
That doesn't appear to be accurate, because threads about V get deleted or shadowbanned. Those instigating the flamewar drama against V, appear to go unpunished. And the same tactics seem to be repeatedly allowed, in nearly any V threads. Detractors and competitors of V will call it vaporware (which is clearly untrue and plain outrageous at this point), call the language a scam or the creator a scammer (clearly untrue, defamatory, and inflammatory), repeatedly spam 2019 xeiaso blog posts, spam old posts to sites where well known detractors and competitors are allowed to gang troll, etc... These actions often go unimpeded and without moderation, where push back or defending against such inflammatory posts get punished and moderator actions. So now, it appears we have a defacto ban against a programming language, for the occasional thread about it. While threads of competing languages are allowed at even the pace of several a day. If they have an issue, it's handled specifically, and not against the entire programming language. To post a thread about V, should be no different than to post one about Python, Go, Rust, or Zig.