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They're 2230 SSDs. It's fine. People have been using this model fine for months. I don't know why people are suddenly so skeptical about replacing parts when th
by Sakos 4y ago
They're 2230 SSDs. It's fine. People have been using this model fine for months. I don't know why people are suddenly so skeptical about replacing parts when that was one of the points of using standard interfaces in a portable PC like this.
- 867-5309 4y agothe SSD Valve chose is rated 3.3v 1A, the SSD in question is rated 3.3v 2.5A one can presume that a device capable of using 2.5x the wattage in an already ultra-confined area is going to face some heat dissipation issues at the very least
- dorveille 4y agoThis right here is the core of the matter. When a Valve provides a detailed guide to replacing the SSD if you really want to, I trust the devs when they say we wanted to have higher storage capacities but heat dissipation was the constraining factor. https://youtu.be/Dxnr2FAADAs https://youtu.be/Dxnr2FAADAs You want a Samsung PM991a, a Sabrent Rocket SB-2130-1TB, or a Kioxia BG4, to keep the draw as close to 1 amp as possible. Or slay your battery and bake your internals. It's your hardware, do what you want.
- xavdid 4y agoProbably because Valve explicitly came out and warned people against using certain parts: https://www.engadget.com/valve-warns-against-steam-deck-ssd-upgrades-152550679.html https://www.engadget.com/valve-warns-against-steam-deck-ssd-...
- RamRodification 4y ago> I don't know why people are suddenly so skeptical about replacing parts Could it be because Valve said they were very careful in choosing their ssd in terms of power draw and wifi interference?
- washadjeffmad 4y agoValve meant that to indicate they'd designed with high frequency signals in mind, not that it's a consideration unique to the Steam deck. You're likelier to generate interference to radio performance from the display mode or USB devices, and ensuring datarates from common internal storage won't interfere is part of that.
- jackmott42 4y ago[flagged]
- moffkalast 4y agoNah Valve says that for everything they do, from the gui buttons in Steam to Gordon Freeman's moustache.
- speed_spread 4y agoTBH, picking the wrong moustache could have truly Unforeseen Consequences.
- Crosseye_Jack 4y agoTBF, The wifi in the whole of sector C has been awful since Gordon was poking around with the anti mass spectrometer!
- yamtaddle 4y agoKnock it off with the Half Life jokes or we'll run you out of this town On a Rail.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoWell, if you glued your protagonist's mouth shut due to a tragic moustache choice you'd understand too.
- Arch-TK 4y agoThe form factor isn't the issue. The person you replied to was referencing the claims Valve made that they went through a lot of testing to ensure that the SSD chosen didn't interfere with other components in terms of EM interference. The WiFi module is underneath the SSD for example. You say that this model has been used fine for months, can you clarify if you're talking about the specific 2TB SSD which framework is selling or 2230 SSDs in general? My primary concern would be making the fragile and unreliable WiFi chip in the deck even more fragile and unreliable.
- jackmott42 4y ago[flagged]
- Hamuko 4y agoMy Steam Deck almost never works on my 5 Ghz network. And even on the 2.4 Ghz network it randomly says that it can't connect to Steam servers. I wonder how more worse it could get with an aftermarket SSD.
- rwky 4y agoIf you've got WPA3 enabled on your router try disabling that. I've found a few devices which don't play well with it. If that doesn't help could be a hardware issue.
- Terretta 4y agoSounds a lot like "Having trouble multi-player video gaming? Try disabling your firewall." "Just turn off modern but now industry-standard security" is almost never the right answer. More background: "By far, the biggest leap forward in WiFi security from WPA2 to WPA3 is seen on the Personal class of networks that use passphrases." https://securityuncorked.com/2022/08/wifi-security-wpa2-vs-wpa3/ https://securityuncorked.com/2022/08/wifi-security-wpa2-vs-w... Or more of a summary: https://themescene.tv/blog/wpa2-vs-wpa3/ https://themescene.tv/blog/wpa2-vs-wpa3/ Of course, turning it off at network level depends whether you care, but preferably leave it on for your devices. Finally, generally good advice for how your WiFi network should be configured: https://support.apple.com/en-kw/HT202068 https://support.apple.com/en-kw/HT202068
- cmbuck 4y agoThis is not a new concern, hardware designers almost always have tradeoffs like this. Just because the interface is standardized doesn't mean the interchangeable modules are identical or without trade-offs. Sure you can swap in a new NVMe module or SO-DIMM into a given device, and while it may still function, you may now have worse performance and/or worse battery life. Despite having the same physical interface, each NVMe module has different electrical specifications.
- Sakos 4y ago[flagged]
- rwalle 4y agoYou missed the point. It's not the part that uses standard interfaces -- all these SSDs comply with those standards -- it's the part not specified by standards that matters. For example, we know that some drives produce more heat than others, or are faster/slower than others, and sometimes these two are tradeoffs. For a small handheld device like Deck, it's important to choose a drive that fits the form factor.
- Sakos 4y agoI didn't miss the point. I just think the point isn't worth worrying about. It's not nearly as important as the comments here are trying to make it.
- mkl 4y ago2230 is just the size: 22mm × 30mm.