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Was this well tested when it comes to the Deck? Valve said they were very careful in choosing their ssd in terms of power draw and wifi interference. While I've

Was this well tested when it comes to the Deck? Valve said they were very careful in choosing their ssd in terms of power draw and wifi interference. While I've replaced my PC with my Deck+Dock storage is one area where I would definitely want more. There are some quirks I've run into - like KDE has found 7 displays for my 3 total (Built-in + 2x 1080p) resulting in some weird panel movements when docking/undocking.

theodric 4y ago
I put a WD 740 2TB 2230 SSD into mine and it works exactly as before, only with far more space.
jackmott42 4y ago
That is the sort of thing companies say to make you afraid to go 3rd party. Pretty rare that it ever has any practical bearing in reality. And Framework has real engineers so its not likely this would be one of those times.
- xdrosenheim 4y ago
  I do not see why Steam would try to make people afraid of getting third-party modifications, when there are no first-party modifications. Also, it is Steam/VALVe, they usually do not care.
bodge5000 4y ago
Off topic but are you using your Deck as your main pc then? How are you finding it?
- ThatMedicIsASpy 4y ago
  Immutable OS - non flatpak stuff vanishes after a major update. Use podman + distrobox/toolbox to keep things and install packages - similar to Fedora Silverblue. As I said my display situation is a bit weird. On the dock I have two 1080p monitors. KDE Panels sometimes disappear and need to be moved. https://i.imgur.com/Ipvj8L4.png https://i.imgur.com/Ipvj8L4.png (eDP is build in display) Other than that there is a complete silence in my room and I don't need much stuff for web dev. The only desktop game I play is dota 2 and I can live with lowered gfx settings.
  - ThatMedicIsASpy 4y ago
    Immutable can be turned off if you wish but as I said it will overwrite/reset these parts with a major update. Ansible or scripts could recreate what you desire but I go the distrobox route.
- mldbk 4y ago
  I use it alongside with my main PC, macbook pro 14. I decided not to alter rootfs, so I left it in RO mode. Instead I installed everything I need via flatpak and installed homebrew to have a build tools, compilers and so on. Using thunderbolt monitor makes it a decent work horse. Basically some days I commute only with steam deck to my office, because I have monitor, keyboard and mouse there as well. EDIT: I work on 4K monitor. And by the way, I have a running VM on my steam deck just in case I need something extra.
fwipsy 4y ago
I actually ran some tests when I upgraded to a 1tb WD SN530 SSD and found the power draw/WiFi degradation to be acceptable. Here are my results: https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/xgse2o/1tb_wd_sn530_ssd_upgrade_wifi_and_power/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/xgse2o/1tb_wd_sn...
Sakos 4y ago
They're 2230 SSDs. It's fine. People have been using this model fine for months. I don't know why people are suddenly so skeptical about replacing parts when that was one of the points of using standard interfaces in a portable PC like this.
- 867-5309 4y ago
  the SSD Valve chose is rated 3.3v 1A, the SSD in question is rated 3.3v 2.5A one can presume that a device capable of using 2.5x the wattage in an already ultra-confined area is going to face some heat dissipation issues at the very least
  - dorveille 4y ago
    This right here is the core of the matter. When a Valve provides a detailed guide to replacing the SSD if you really want to, I trust the devs when they say we wanted to have higher storage capacities but heat dissipation was the constraining factor. https://youtu.be/Dxnr2FAADAs https://youtu.be/Dxnr2FAADAs You want a Samsung PM991a, a Sabrent Rocket SB-2130-1TB, or a Kioxia BG4, to keep the draw as close to 1 amp as possible. Or slay your battery and bake your internals. It's your hardware, do what you want.
- xavdid 4y ago
  Probably because Valve explicitly came out and warned people against using certain parts: https://www.engadget.com/valve-warns-against-steam-deck-ssd-upgrades-152550679.html https://www.engadget.com/valve-warns-against-steam-deck-ssd-...
- RamRodification 4y ago
  > I don't know why people are suddenly so skeptical about replacing parts Could it be because Valve said they were very careful in choosing their ssd in terms of power draw and wifi interference?
  - washadjeffmad 4y ago
    Valve meant that to indicate they'd designed with high frequency signals in mind, not that it's a consideration unique to the Steam deck. You're likelier to generate interference to radio performance from the display mode or USB devices, and ensuring datarates from common internal storage won't interfere is part of that.

theodric 4y ago

I put a WD 740 2TB 2230 SSD into mine and it works exactly as before, only with far more space.

jackmott42 4y ago

That is the sort of thing companies say to make you afraid to go 3rd party. Pretty rare that it ever has any practical bearing in reality. And Framework has real engineers so its not likely this would be one of those times.

xdrosenheim 4y ago
I do not see why Steam would try to make people afraid of getting third-party modifications, when there are no first-party modifications. Also, it is Steam/VALVe, they usually do not care.

bodge5000 4y ago

Off topic but are you using your Deck as your main pc then? How are you finding it?

ThatMedicIsASpy 4y ago
Immutable OS - non flatpak stuff vanishes after a major update. Use podman + distrobox/toolbox to keep things and install packages - similar to Fedora Silverblue. As I said my display situation is a bit weird. On the dock I have two 1080p monitors. KDE Panels sometimes disappear and need to be moved. https://i.imgur.com/Ipvj8L4.png https://i.imgur.com/Ipvj8L4.png (eDP is build in display) Other than that there is a complete silence in my room and I don't need much stuff for web dev. The only desktop game I play is dota 2 and I can live with lowered gfx settings.
- ThatMedicIsASpy 4y ago
  Immutable can be turned off if you wish but as I said it will overwrite/reset these parts with a major update. Ansible or scripts could recreate what you desire but I go the distrobox route.
mldbk 4y ago
I use it alongside with my main PC, macbook pro 14. I decided not to alter rootfs, so I left it in RO mode. Instead I installed everything I need via flatpak and installed homebrew to have a build tools, compilers and so on. Using thunderbolt monitor makes it a decent work horse. Basically some days I commute only with steam deck to my office, because I have monitor, keyboard and mouse there as well. EDIT: I work on 4K monitor. And by the way, I have a running VM on my steam deck just in case I need something extra.

fwipsy 4y ago

I actually ran some tests when I upgraded to a 1tb WD SN530 SSD and found the power draw/WiFi degradation to be acceptable. Here are my results: https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/xgse2o/1tb_wd_sn530_ssd_upgrade_wifi_and_power/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/xgse2o/1tb_wd_sn...

Sakos 4y ago

They're 2230 SSDs. It's fine. People have been using this model fine for months. I don't know why people are suddenly so skeptical about replacing parts when that was one of the points of using standard interfaces in a portable PC like this.

867-5309 4y ago
the SSD Valve chose is rated 3.3v 1A, the SSD in question is rated 3.3v 2.5A one can presume that a device capable of using 2.5x the wattage in an already ultra-confined area is going to face some heat dissipation issues at the very least
- dorveille 4y ago
  This right here is the core of the matter. When a Valve provides a detailed guide to replacing the SSD if you really want to, I trust the devs when they say we wanted to have higher storage capacities but heat dissipation was the constraining factor. https://youtu.be/Dxnr2FAADAs https://youtu.be/Dxnr2FAADAs You want a Samsung PM991a, a Sabrent Rocket SB-2130-1TB, or a Kioxia BG4, to keep the draw as close to 1 amp as possible. Or slay your battery and bake your internals. It's your hardware, do what you want.
xavdid 4y ago
Probably because Valve explicitly came out and warned people against using certain parts: https://www.engadget.com/valve-warns-against-steam-deck-ssd-upgrades-152550679.html https://www.engadget.com/valve-warns-against-steam-deck-ssd-...
RamRodification 4y ago
> I don't know why people are suddenly so skeptical about replacing parts Could it be because Valve said they were very careful in choosing their ssd in terms of power draw and wifi interference?
- washadjeffmad 4y ago
  Valve meant that to indicate they'd designed with high frequency signals in mind, not that it's a consideration unique to the Steam deck. You're likelier to generate interference to radio performance from the display mode or USB devices, and ensuring datarates from common internal storage won't interfere is part of that.