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The easiest solution is to simply not buy Apple equipment since they're user-hostile. Apple is a premium luxury brand, like Bentley or Coach or Rolex. If you

The easiest solution is to simply not buy Apple equipment since they're user-hostile. Apple is a premium luxury brand, like Bentley or Coach or Rolex. If you buy Apple stuff, you should be happy to buy different chargers and cables for the different Apple devices.

coldpie 4y ago
Apple is the only (the one, the only) phone manufacturer that sells a human-hand-sized phone in the US, the iPhone Mini. I'd love to go back to Android, I find iOS to be pretty terrible, but I'm afraid my hands are not 15 inches wide, so it's just not an option for me.
philliphaydon 4y ago
> The easiest solution is to simply not buy Apple equipment since they're user-hostile. Why do people spread this false doctrine?
- dmonitor 4y ago
  Right? "Don't buy user-hostile Apple equipment. Use Windows instead!" What world are these people even from?
- ggm 4y ago
  because the word "simplest" has so many locally contextually defined meanings that communication is fraught. I mean "honour your father and mother" -what does the word honour mean?? bestow them with a title? give them a gold Oscar statue? Also you said spread. I didn't see a jar of butter and a knife. what spread is this? You said doctrine. Can I see some statements from the episcopacy on this please...
- __MatrixMan__ 4y ago
  Not doing something is generally easier than doing something...
threeseed 4y ago
I always love the delusional argument that Apple is a premium brand like Rolex. Rolex sells watches that are incredible pieces of engineering but functionally can be found in a watch that is 10000x cheaper. There is no laptop that I can buy today that is equivalent to an M2 MacBook Pro at any price point let alone significantly cheaper.
- midoridensha 4y ago
  It's not delusional. You have a point with the M2, but most Apple owners don't have those, they just have iPhones and a few other associated gadgets. There's nothing special about iPhone hardware, in fact it's usually behind other manufacturer's hardware at similar or somewhat lower price points.
  - esskay 4y ago
    The individual components are (e.g camera and screen) but in terms of the SOC they're still several years ahead of the competition on performent to power consumption, arguably the most important part of a mobile device.
    - graphe 4y ago
      It hasn't been relevant for years. It mattered when it doubled the speed but I can use a 6S even today and not care to upgrade. I can use a Pixel 3a and not care to upgrade. Nobody buys the new iPhone because the SOC uses 20mAh less and is 13% faster and 300% faster in some irrelevant benchmark. Camera quality, and bad battery life from old phone seem to be why normal people upgrade, brand and design occasionally too.
      - notafraudster 4y ago
        I think people value the better SOC, but less incrementally year-over-year and more on the kind of upgrade cycle they're on. An iPhone 6S is absolutely still useable, and if you upgrade to a 7 it'll feel mostly the same, but if you upgrade to a 10 (or a 12 or a 14) you'll notice workflows where you get a real increase in fluidity and the same is true on a Pixel. I agree that battery failure and camera is likely what _drives_ the upgrade, mind you, but the better SOC brings collateral benefits.

coldpie 4y ago

Apple is the only (the one, the only) phone manufacturer that sells a human-hand-sized phone in the US, the iPhone Mini. I'd love to go back to Android, I find iOS to be pretty terrible, but I'm afraid my hands are not 15 inches wide, so it's just not an option for me.

philliphaydon 4y ago

> The easiest solution is to simply not buy Apple equipment since they're user-hostile. Why do people spread this false doctrine?

dmonitor 4y ago
Right? "Don't buy user-hostile Apple equipment. Use Windows instead!" What world are these people even from?
ggm 4y ago
because the word "simplest" has so many locally contextually defined meanings that communication is fraught. I mean "honour your father and mother" -what does the word honour mean?? bestow them with a title? give them a gold Oscar statue? Also you said spread. I didn't see a jar of butter and a knife. what spread is this? You said doctrine. Can I see some statements from the episcopacy on this please...
__MatrixMan__ 4y ago
Not doing something is generally easier than doing something...

threeseed 4y ago

I always love the delusional argument that Apple is a premium brand like Rolex. Rolex sells watches that are incredible pieces of engineering but functionally can be found in a watch that is 10000x cheaper. There is no laptop that I can buy today that is equivalent to an M2 MacBook Pro at any price point let alone significantly cheaper.

midoridensha 4y ago
It's not delusional. You have a point with the M2, but most Apple owners don't have those, they just have iPhones and a few other associated gadgets. There's nothing special about iPhone hardware, in fact it's usually behind other manufacturer's hardware at similar or somewhat lower price points.
- esskay 4y ago
  The individual components are (e.g camera and screen) but in terms of the SOC they're still several years ahead of the competition on performent to power consumption, arguably the most important part of a mobile device.
  - graphe 4y ago
    It hasn't been relevant for years. It mattered when it doubled the speed but I can use a 6S even today and not care to upgrade. I can use a Pixel 3a and not care to upgrade. Nobody buys the new iPhone because the SOC uses 20mAh less and is 13% faster and 300% faster in some irrelevant benchmark. Camera quality, and bad battery life from old phone seem to be why normal people upgrade, brand and design occasionally too.
    - notafraudster 4y ago
      I think people value the better SOC, but less incrementally year-over-year and more on the kind of upgrade cycle they're on. An iPhone 6S is absolutely still useable, and if you upgrade to a 7 it'll feel mostly the same, but if you upgrade to a 10 (or a 12 or a 14) you'll notice workflows where you get a real increase in fluidity and the same is true on a Pixel. I agree that battery failure and camera is likely what _drives_ the upgrade, mind you, but the better SOC brings collateral benefits.