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> Bone headed move. They must have miscalculated if they think the students will cave to this pressure It´s not about caving, I don´t think. It´s about maximum

by icepat 4y ago

> Bone headed move. They must have miscalculated if they think the students will cave to this pressure It´s not about caving, I don´t think. It´s about maximum damage. University administration is one of the most ruthless groups you can come across. They´re well aware that they hold the future ambitions of these students in their hands. Even if they get sued, even if they lose, they´re well aware that they can utterly ruin a sizeable portion of the students they hit with this. They simply can´t afford to fight back, or wait to get the situation resolved.

the_only_law 4y ago
> University administration is one of the most ruthless groups you can come across. No joke, I managed to twist my way around bureaucrats for years, but university admissions was the one first I could just never beat
- icepat 4y ago
  It's a new level of unthinking Kafkaesque bureaucracy. I always felt that admin at university don't only forget they're dealing with humans, but they're borderline misanthropic.
rwalle 4y ago
The story of Mackenzie Fierceton is a perfect example. These scumbags in university administration could not care less about ruining a student's future. They have nothing to lose.
- xiaolingxiao 4y ago
  I concur. The person in the lawsuit Beth winkelstein is an absolute academic bully, eveyone who has ever come across her knows it. It just goes to show how little accountability there is in the University.
- genocidicbunny 4y ago
  > They have nothing to lose. Which is what I really think the core of the problem is. These people make decisions that can ruin of a whole host of people, but face no accountability for it. I'm of the opinion that there should always be a remedy available for those wronged, and the ones doing the wronging should hope it's only via the court system.
  - icepat 4y ago
    > face no accountability for it Well, just look at how administrative errors, and professional misconduct by instructors is handled. I had a professor fail half the class because he lost the final exams, and another cohort because he made serious errors in the grading. The university did absolutely nothing to deal with it. While I was able to get the grade removed, I was directly told by the vice-dean to get out of the faculty for making a stink about it. It took four years for the university to take action against the professor. Apparently the line wasn't even him telling students to kill themselves if they failed his course.

by icepat 4y ago

the_only_law 4y ago

> University administration is one of the most ruthless groups you can come across. No joke, I managed to twist my way around bureaucrats for years, but university admissions was the one first I could just never beat

icepat 4y ago
It's a new level of unthinking Kafkaesque bureaucracy. I always felt that admin at university don't only forget they're dealing with humans, but they're borderline misanthropic.

rwalle 4y ago

The story of Mackenzie Fierceton is a perfect example. These scumbags in university administration could not care less about ruining a student's future. They have nothing to lose.

xiaolingxiao 4y ago
I concur. The person in the lawsuit Beth winkelstein is an absolute academic bully, eveyone who has ever come across her knows it. It just goes to show how little accountability there is in the University.
genocidicbunny 4y ago
> They have nothing to lose. Which is what I really think the core of the problem is. These people make decisions that can ruin of a whole host of people, but face no accountability for it. I'm of the opinion that there should always be a remedy available for those wronged, and the ones doing the wronging should hope it's only via the court system.
- icepat 4y ago
  > face no accountability for it Well, just look at how administrative errors, and professional misconduct by instructors is handled. I had a professor fail half the class because he lost the final exams, and another cohort because he made serious errors in the grading. The university did absolutely nothing to deal with it. While I was able to get the grade removed, I was directly told by the vice-dean to get out of the faculty for making a stink about it. It took four years for the university to take action against the professor. Apparently the line wasn't even him telling students to kill themselves if they failed his course.