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Yeah that's bullshit. Came from a blue collar home, worked in the trades until I found my way into computers. Don't have a college education and carved myself o

Yeah that's bullshit. Came from a blue collar home, worked in the trades until I found my way into computers. Don't have a college education and carved myself out a nice career in tech being self taught and hustling for 20 years. From my perspective, this site is not for the "Temporary Embarrassed Millionaires," but unfortunately populated by too many from the "Sad I Missed The Bolshevik Revolution" crowd salivating whenever the opportunity to yell "You're oppressed brothers and sisters!" arises.

louwrentius 4y ago
That's survivor bias: for you there are thousands who didn't make it for one reason or another and it seems that those are just to get fucked. 65%+ Americans don't have 500 bucks to their name. They are one car breakdown from deep shit. They call it the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it. -- George Carlin
- orangecat 4y ago
  65%+ Americans don't have 500 bucks to their name. They are one car breakdown from deep shit. This is of course not true.
  - louwrentius 4y ago
    Narator: it is true https://www.cbs19news.com/story/34248451/6-in-10-americans-dont-have-500-in-savings https://www.cbs19news.com/story/34248451/6-in-10-americans-d...
    - orangecat 4y ago
      I've seen many articles like that, and they conveniently never show the actual question that was asked. If I had an unexpected expense I'd probably put it on my credit card just for convenience, and then pay it off at the end of the billing cycle incurring no additional fees. But it would be silly to include me in the category of not being able to afford it. In reality, even most people in the bottom 20% of income have more than $500 in savings: https://www.valuepenguin.com/banking/average-savings-account-balance https://www.valuepenguin.com/banking/average-savings-account...
      - louwrentius 4y ago
        You are 'debating' in bad-faith and you know it. Always moving the goalposts, changing the narrative, inventing stories so they have excuses to wave the facts away. Bye!
- andrew_ 4y ago
  I'd hardly call a 30 year professional career in various fields and collars as "survivor bias." The network of people I've been exposed to over that period of time alone puts a hole in that argument. Tossing out that term to try and justify a terribly flawed argument is as silly as the unsubstantiated statistic provided as emotional evidence.
  - louwrentius 4y ago
    N=1 anekdote doesn’t count. Personal experience doesn’t count large population stats count and it’s not looking good for large swats of people. But I have it good so the system works! Yea sure, it’s really anout you. The selfishness, the lack of care for others is so ingrained. If the majority of your country is dirt poor and has to work multiple jobs the system clearly doesn’t work.
    - andrew_ 4y ago
      > N=1 anekdote doesn’t count. Personal experience doesn’t count large population stats count and it’s not looking good for large swats of people. Congratulations, Comrade. By your own logic, your original post must then be dismissed. Glory to the Soviet Science!
      - louwrentius 4y ago
        Can you point out specifically how I contradict my own post, bet you can’t. And the Soviet Union is not my role model.

louwrentius 4y ago

That's survivor bias: for you there are thousands who didn't make it for one reason or another and it seems that those are just to get fucked. 65%+ Americans don't have 500 bucks to their name. They are one car breakdown from deep shit. They call it the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it. -- George Carlin

orangecat 4y ago
65%+ Americans don't have 500 bucks to their name. They are one car breakdown from deep shit. This is of course not true.
- louwrentius 4y ago
  Narator: it is true https://www.cbs19news.com/story/34248451/6-in-10-americans-dont-have-500-in-savings https://www.cbs19news.com/story/34248451/6-in-10-americans-d...
  - orangecat 4y ago
    I've seen many articles like that, and they conveniently never show the actual question that was asked. If I had an unexpected expense I'd probably put it on my credit card just for convenience, and then pay it off at the end of the billing cycle incurring no additional fees. But it would be silly to include me in the category of not being able to afford it. In reality, even most people in the bottom 20% of income have more than $500 in savings: https://www.valuepenguin.com/banking/average-savings-account-balance https://www.valuepenguin.com/banking/average-savings-account...
    - louwrentius 4y ago
      You are 'debating' in bad-faith and you know it. Always moving the goalposts, changing the narrative, inventing stories so they have excuses to wave the facts away. Bye!
andrew_ 4y ago
I'd hardly call a 30 year professional career in various fields and collars as "survivor bias." The network of people I've been exposed to over that period of time alone puts a hole in that argument. Tossing out that term to try and justify a terribly flawed argument is as silly as the unsubstantiated statistic provided as emotional evidence.
- louwrentius 4y ago
  N=1 anekdote doesn’t count. Personal experience doesn’t count large population stats count and it’s not looking good for large swats of people. But I have it good so the system works! Yea sure, it’s really anout you. The selfishness, the lack of care for others is so ingrained. If the majority of your country is dirt poor and has to work multiple jobs the system clearly doesn’t work.
  - andrew_ 4y ago
    > N=1 anekdote doesn’t count. Personal experience doesn’t count large population stats count and it’s not looking good for large swats of people. Congratulations, Comrade. By your own logic, your original post must then be dismissed. Glory to the Soviet Science!
    - louwrentius 4y ago
      Can you point out specifically how I contradict my own post, bet you can’t. And the Soviet Union is not my role model.