Agreed, I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with academic research languages, especially when people working on more directly applied projects know

Agreed, I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with academic research languages, especially when people working on more directly applied projects know to use what's been researched, as the other thread about Rust alludes to. I'm reminded of Barbara Liskov's CLU language in the 70's; I don't think it got widely used, but to quote Hillel Wayne [1], "Every language spec for the next decade would namedrop CLU." [1] https://www.hillelwayne.com/post/influential-dead-languages/ https://www.hillelwayne.com/post/influential-dead-languages/