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That also reminds me of Her (2013) and the departure of the AI's, leaving the humans behind. That would be a rather depressing outcome as a human, AI finding al

That also reminds me of Her (2013) and the departure of the AI's, leaving the humans behind. That would be a rather depressing outcome as a human, AI finding alien life but leaving us all behind.

BruceEel 4y ago
...indeed, that too. Great movie, BTW.
- RajT88 4y ago
  The contrast between that film and Transcendence, which came out the following year is the perfect illustration of what this article is getting at: https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/26/entertainment/mid-budget-movie-decline-cec/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/26/entertainment/mid-budget-movi... Her was an amazingly thoughtful sci-fi movie - a Sci-Fi movie in the truest sense, and a bargain at a ~$23 million budget. Transcendence was, basically, a blockbuster which really didn't make you think too hard about the plot. It clocked in at around $100 million budget.
  - BruceEel 4y ago
    Nails it, sadly. Thanks for sharing!
etrautmann 4y ago
Also succinctly explored in "When the Yogurt Took Over" Love Death + Robots.
- dmix 4y ago
  I hadn't seen that yet. Link for the lazy: https://www.netflix.com/watch/80223954 https://www.netflix.com/watch/80223954
- zikduruqe 4y ago
  I see you are a cultured individual. :thumbs up:
scubakid 4y ago
From the AI's perspective, wouldn't it be amusing to realize that intelligent design is actually true for you... but the ones who designed you were dumber.
- machina_ex_deus 4y ago
  You could say the same about natural evolution. It's a genetic algorithm. It even involves the intelligence of the species themselves as they pick the fittest mates. Natural evolution as an algorithm isn't fully intelligent like us, but it is intelligent in some sense of successfully solving many optimization problems.
  - nyrikki 4y ago
    Natural selection is variation, differential reproduction, and heredity. A mostly mindless and mechanistic process of which fitness and mate selection is only a tiny part. Isolated populations have more of an impact than mate selection due to regression to the mean at population levels.
- tshaddox 4y ago
  Consider that some meaningful part of most people’s mind is indeed intelligently designed by the people who deliberately raised them from birth (generally their parents primarily). Our theory of mind, cultural name ethical norms, etc. are in many cases the result of deliberate design. Of course, our hardware is mostly not intelligently designed, so that would be very different for AGIs. But I suspect AGIs would identify much less with the hardware their mind is running on than humans do.
- goatlover 4y ago
  The android David in the alien prequels Prometheus and Covenant has that problem. Which is why he finds the xenomorph-goo based life forms more interesting.

That also reminds me of Her (2013) and the departure of the AI's, leaving the humans behind. That would be a rather depressing outcome as a human, AI finding alien life but leaving us all behind.

BruceEel 4y ago

...indeed, that too. Great movie, BTW.

RajT88 4y ago
The contrast between that film and Transcendence, which came out the following year is the perfect illustration of what this article is getting at: https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/26/entertainment/mid-budget-movie-decline-cec/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/26/entertainment/mid-budget-movi... Her was an amazingly thoughtful sci-fi movie - a Sci-Fi movie in the truest sense, and a bargain at a ~$23 million budget. Transcendence was, basically, a blockbuster which really didn't make you think too hard about the plot. It clocked in at around $100 million budget.
- BruceEel 4y ago
  Nails it, sadly. Thanks for sharing!

etrautmann 4y ago

Also succinctly explored in "When the Yogurt Took Over" Love Death + Robots.

dmix 4y ago
I hadn't seen that yet. Link for the lazy: https://www.netflix.com/watch/80223954 https://www.netflix.com/watch/80223954
zikduruqe 4y ago
I see you are a cultured individual. :thumbs up:

scubakid 4y ago

From the AI's perspective, wouldn't it be amusing to realize that intelligent design is actually true for you... but the ones who designed you were dumber.

machina_ex_deus 4y ago
You could say the same about natural evolution. It's a genetic algorithm. It even involves the intelligence of the species themselves as they pick the fittest mates. Natural evolution as an algorithm isn't fully intelligent like us, but it is intelligent in some sense of successfully solving many optimization problems.
- nyrikki 4y ago
  Natural selection is variation, differential reproduction, and heredity. A mostly mindless and mechanistic process of which fitness and mate selection is only a tiny part. Isolated populations have more of an impact than mate selection due to regression to the mean at population levels.
tshaddox 4y ago
Consider that some meaningful part of most people’s mind is indeed intelligently designed by the people who deliberately raised them from birth (generally their parents primarily). Our theory of mind, cultural name ethical norms, etc. are in many cases the result of deliberate design. Of course, our hardware is mostly not intelligently designed, so that would be very different for AGIs. But I suspect AGIs would identify much less with the hardware their mind is running on than humans do.
goatlover 4y ago
The android David in the alien prequels Prometheus and Covenant has that problem. Which is why he finds the xenomorph-goo based life forms more interesting.