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Yes, continue to build out overnight grid access for the segment of the population that does not currently have it. That is a good idea. Are you suggesting ot

Yes, continue to build out overnight grid access for the segment of the population that does not currently have it. That is a good idea. Are you suggesting otherwise that we all continue to drive gasoline cars until that happens, then it'll be okay to switch to electric?

tehbeard 4y ago
You seem to be taking an awfully defensive stance as if comment was from someone anti-EV, when in reality anyone reading it would see it merely points out issues with the current available infrastructure. I haven't heard much hullabaloo made about kerbside EV charging or such for apartment complexes or terraced housing etc in the UK. Is this something happening quietly, or not being invested in much like rural broadband wasnt?
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  Normally the anti-EV crowd does tend to just drop in little nuggets to prove that we don't have a perfect world for EVs yet, without furthering the discussion of how we get to that point. Because they don't want to get there to begin with, burning gasoline is their preferred permanent solution. I do see a fair amount of quiet upgrading going on, at least in my area (in the US, not in UK, so I cannot speak to that). Having an EV charger is becoming a box you want to have checked on your rental property description, whether apartment or house. That doesn't mean we have a great solution in mind for curbside parking, mind you, but in most of the US that's a much less critical issue than apartment complexes which do have private parking lots.
  - notacoward 4y ago
    The one question the "EVs still pollute" crowd can never answer is what ICEV owners can do that's equivalent to installing your own solar (or soon wind) to harvest your own clean energy for a vehicle. Same to a certain extent with heat pumps vs. oil/gas heating for the home. They act like green technologies are as good and cheap as they can ever be, and do absolutely nothing to reduce emissions, when in fact progress is being made rapidly on both fronts. It's this one-sided view that makes them seem like allies of Big Oil, even if they don't mean to be.
- Symbiote 4y ago
  Britain (especially London) has more kerbside EV charging (per capita) than anywhere except China. It's often only 3000W or so, i.e. the rating of the normal domestic socket. Scroll around https://www.zap-map.com/live/ https://www.zap-map.com/live/
  - tehbeard 4y ago
    from that map, christ it looks like they added a cable to every other street lamp in London. Density closer to home looks about the same as what I've normally seen, scattered 2-4 bays at a few businesses, some business parks with 8 bays. Surprised at the coverage for Coventry tbh
NegativeK 4y ago
No; I'm pointing the unfortunate reality of today's rental properties. I love my EV, and I have zero regrets the purchase. But I don't think it'd be practical for me to buy it if I was renting, and that sucks.

tehbeard 4y ago

You seem to be taking an awfully defensive stance as if comment was from someone anti-EV, when in reality anyone reading it would see it merely points out issues with the current available infrastructure. I haven't heard much hullabaloo made about kerbside EV charging or such for apartment complexes or terraced housing etc in the UK. Is this something happening quietly, or not being invested in much like rural broadband wasnt?

rootusrootus 4y ago
Normally the anti-EV crowd does tend to just drop in little nuggets to prove that we don't have a perfect world for EVs yet, without furthering the discussion of how we get to that point. Because they don't want to get there to begin with, burning gasoline is their preferred permanent solution. I do see a fair amount of quiet upgrading going on, at least in my area (in the US, not in UK, so I cannot speak to that). Having an EV charger is becoming a box you want to have checked on your rental property description, whether apartment or house. That doesn't mean we have a great solution in mind for curbside parking, mind you, but in most of the US that's a much less critical issue than apartment complexes which do have private parking lots.
- notacoward 4y ago
  The one question the "EVs still pollute" crowd can never answer is what ICEV owners can do that's equivalent to installing your own solar (or soon wind) to harvest your own clean energy for a vehicle. Same to a certain extent with heat pumps vs. oil/gas heating for the home. They act like green technologies are as good and cheap as they can ever be, and do absolutely nothing to reduce emissions, when in fact progress is being made rapidly on both fronts. It's this one-sided view that makes them seem like allies of Big Oil, even if they don't mean to be.
Symbiote 4y ago
Britain (especially London) has more kerbside EV charging (per capita) than anywhere except China. It's often only 3000W or so, i.e. the rating of the normal domestic socket. Scroll around https://www.zap-map.com/live/ https://www.zap-map.com/live/
- tehbeard 4y ago
  from that map, christ it looks like they added a cable to every other street lamp in London. Density closer to home looks about the same as what I've normally seen, scattered 2-4 bays at a few businesses, some business parks with 8 bays. Surprised at the coverage for Coventry tbh

NegativeK 4y ago

No; I'm pointing the unfortunate reality of today's rental properties. I love my EV, and I have zero regrets the purchase. But I don't think it'd be practical for me to buy it if I was renting, and that sucks.