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Why buy a Pixel only to replace the OS? Pixels are basically minimum viable hardware to deliver Google software. Without the Google software, its just a mid-r

Why buy a Pixel only to replace the OS? Pixels are basically minimum viable hardware to deliver Google software. Without the Google software, its just a mid-range phone at high-end prices.

cokeandpepsi 4y ago
the a series are well priced/supported and do more than enough for me, you can pick one up for $300 and be good for years.. all while there are people making monthly payments for 1,200 iphones
- fullstop 4y ago
  > all while there are people making monthly payments for 1,200 iphones A lot of the carrier /manufacturer incentives (in the USA) have been fantastic lately, especially if you had an older device which could be traded in. Right now, through Google, you can trade a Pixel 5a in when buying a Pixel 6a and pay $50 for the upgrade.
- acdha 4y ago
  I find it interesting that you’re comparing an old, low-end Pixel phone to the most expensive current generation iPhone. If your phone budget is $300 you’d be comparing it to the similarly priced iPhone 11 or SE; if you wanted a prestige flagship phone you’d be comparing it to a high-end Android device costing about the same.
dzikimarian 4y ago
That's just plain not true. It's at least $100 below market average and performance is great. Not mentioning camera which is easily one of the best on the market, if not the best one.
- pjmlp 4y ago
  In the few European countries where Pixel is on sale, it is more like 100 euros above the average price of 300 euros for mid-range phones.
  - jacooper 4y ago
    A pixel isn't a mid range phone.
    - pjmlp 4y ago
      OP thinks it is. "It's at least $100 below market average and performance is great" => market average
      - jacooper 4y ago
        He meant Market average as in average flagship prices. Pixel 6 pro and 7 pro prices are cheap compared to any other phone from the same tier.
        dzikimarian 4y ago
        This exactly. Regular Pixel 6 and 7 were also often mentioned as great value.
        jacooper 4y ago
        Regular Pixel 6 has crazy value, you get an absolute steal for around 300$.
- kaba0 4y ago
  Do you get the same camera experience with Graphene installed as with vanilla software?
  - jacooper 4y ago
    Yes, you can just install the google camera app
kaba0 4y ago
Pixels are one of the few Android phones that actually have some decent security features in hardware (that’s why they are the only supported grapheneOS targets). Nonetheless, iPhones are also great from a security perspective out of the box, and the hardware is superior so I just couldn’t switch to a pixel, even though I wanted to at every version. They are unfortunately simply riddled with some stupid mistakes, like that emergency call one.

Why buy a Pixel only to replace the OS? Pixels are basically minimum viable hardware to deliver Google software. Without the Google software, its just a mid-range phone at high-end prices.

cokeandpepsi 4y ago

the a series are well priced/supported and do more than enough for me, you can pick one up for $300 and be good for years.. all while there are people making monthly payments for 1,200 iphones

fullstop 4y ago
> all while there are people making monthly payments for 1,200 iphones A lot of the carrier /manufacturer incentives (in the USA) have been fantastic lately, especially if you had an older device which could be traded in. Right now, through Google, you can trade a Pixel 5a in when buying a Pixel 6a and pay $50 for the upgrade.
acdha 4y ago
I find it interesting that you’re comparing an old, low-end Pixel phone to the most expensive current generation iPhone. If your phone budget is $300 you’d be comparing it to the similarly priced iPhone 11 or SE; if you wanted a prestige flagship phone you’d be comparing it to a high-end Android device costing about the same.

dzikimarian 4y ago

That's just plain not true. It's at least $100 below market average and performance is great. Not mentioning camera which is easily one of the best on the market, if not the best one.

pjmlp 4y ago
In the few European countries where Pixel is on sale, it is more like 100 euros above the average price of 300 euros for mid-range phones.
- jacooper 4y ago
  A pixel isn't a mid range phone.
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    OP thinks it is. "It's at least $100 below market average and performance is great" => market average
    - jacooper 4y ago
      He meant Market average as in average flagship prices. Pixel 6 pro and 7 pro prices are cheap compared to any other phone from the same tier.
      - dzikimarian 4y ago
        This exactly. Regular Pixel 6 and 7 were also often mentioned as great value.
        jacooper 4y ago
        Regular Pixel 6 has crazy value, you get an absolute steal for around 300$.
kaba0 4y ago
Do you get the same camera experience with Graphene installed as with vanilla software?
- jacooper 4y ago
  Yes, you can just install the google camera app

kaba0 4y ago

Pixels are one of the few Android phones that actually have some decent security features in hardware (that’s why they are the only supported grapheneOS targets). Nonetheless, iPhones are also great from a security perspective out of the box, and the hardware is superior so I just couldn’t switch to a pixel, even though I wanted to at every version. They are unfortunately simply riddled with some stupid mistakes, like that emergency call one.