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For people with the means to afford it, iOS devices are superior in most ways: from performance to utility to lifetime. They lack features a rounding-error frac

by sidlls 4y ago

For people with the means to afford it, iOS devices are superior in most ways: from performance to utility to lifetime. They lack features a rounding-error fraction of users care about, like side-loading for example.

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goosedragons 4y ago
Performance? Maybe. Lifetime? Maybe. Utility? No. The extra restrictions Apple packs on cuts utility. No emulators, no NFC pairing, no auto-sorting your app pages alphabetically, worse notifications, no grabbing that file off a USB C drive, etc. Certainly never got some of the weird but useful things Android phones have had like being a universal remote. Android phones can do everything iPhones can plus more. You can debate whether or not it's more rough around the edges but they just simply do more.
- pb7 4y ago
  >Android phones can do everything iPhones can plus more. You can debate whether or not it's more rough around the edges but they just simply do more. More but worse. I don't want it to be a really bad space heater or a really bad flood light, I want it doing a few things really well. >No emulators, no NFC pairing, no auto-sorting your app pages alphabetically, worse notifications, no grabbing that file off a USB C drive, etc. The number of people that care about this stuff is a rounding error. I can't even remember the last time I saw a USB drive let alone needed to get something off of it on my phone.
  - goosedragons 4y ago
    Nobody cares about better app and notification management? Some of these are niche but those two things make Android better at being a smartphone than the iPhone. You might not care about these things but some people do. Rounding errors start to add up when there's lots of them.
    - sidlls 4y ago
      Apple's notification management is better than what I remember from my last Android phone (years ago, a Pixel, latest version at the time, I think in 2017 or 2018). Apple's app management is definitely mixed, but I find it quite easy to use as-is, certainly not deficient enough to be a deal-breaker. And most people--by far--don't care much about either item.
      - goosedragons 4y ago
        Android lets you easily disable notifications for some features of apps in settings. Apple is all or nothing and you have to hope that the app dev was kind enough to put granular notification settings in the app. It's also just better at stuff like in-notfication replies.
        sidlls 4y ago
        "Nobody" wants to spend 20 minutes configuring at that granularity: apple's is more than sufficient for 99.9999% of all use cases. All the supposedly superior Android features in this entire thread are things only a minute fraction of tinkerers actually care about.
        goosedragons 4y ago
        Yes, everything you don't care about is some minute fraction of tinkerers. I bet you thought only some minute fraction of tinkerers wanted copy and paste, a notification shade, widgets, always on display etc.
- smokelegend 4y ago
  One could make the argument that Apple has to have something that Android doesn't... a faster cpu? This doesn't mean that Android needs to have the fastest cpu, because they can do more with the resources they have better then Apple does. Wireless charging android phone to android phone, done. Wireless charging your headphone case from your Android phone, done. Want to plug in a hard drive, ssd, ide, cd-rom, 3.5inchers, printer, keyboard, mouse, monitor, done, done, done, it all gets done on android. You see I care more about functionality/utility them cpu speed. And as others have pointed out battery life is still the most critical priority....because who cares how fast your frame rates are if you can only play for 15min before running the battery dead... Next 5yrs the battery technology for these handheld devices will be insane. Imagine not charging your phone for a week....
  - sidlls 4y ago
    Yes, you fit in the “rounding error” group of users. Nobody (almost) cares about any of the features you noted. I’m not talking technology-ignorant people, either: the vast majority of phone users, including sophisticated users, use it for basic app functionality and texting. They aren’t hooking up hard drives or keyboards and don’t even want to.

by sidlls 4y ago

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goosedragons 4y ago

Performance? Maybe. Lifetime? Maybe. Utility? No. The extra restrictions Apple packs on cuts utility. No emulators, no NFC pairing, no auto-sorting your app pages alphabetically, worse notifications, no grabbing that file off a USB C drive, etc. Certainly never got some of the weird but useful things Android phones have had like being a universal remote. Android phones can do everything iPhones can plus more. You can debate whether or not it's more rough around the edges but they just simply do more.

pb7 4y ago
>Android phones can do everything iPhones can plus more. You can debate whether or not it's more rough around the edges but they just simply do more. More but worse. I don't want it to be a really bad space heater or a really bad flood light, I want it doing a few things really well. >No emulators, no NFC pairing, no auto-sorting your app pages alphabetically, worse notifications, no grabbing that file off a USB C drive, etc. The number of people that care about this stuff is a rounding error. I can't even remember the last time I saw a USB drive let alone needed to get something off of it on my phone.
- goosedragons 4y ago
  Nobody cares about better app and notification management? Some of these are niche but those two things make Android better at being a smartphone than the iPhone. You might not care about these things but some people do. Rounding errors start to add up when there's lots of them.
  - sidlls 4y ago
    Apple's notification management is better than what I remember from my last Android phone (years ago, a Pixel, latest version at the time, I think in 2017 or 2018). Apple's app management is definitely mixed, but I find it quite easy to use as-is, certainly not deficient enough to be a deal-breaker. And most people--by far--don't care much about either item.
    - goosedragons 4y ago
      Android lets you easily disable notifications for some features of apps in settings. Apple is all or nothing and you have to hope that the app dev was kind enough to put granular notification settings in the app. It's also just better at stuff like in-notfication replies.
      - sidlls 4y ago
        "Nobody" wants to spend 20 minutes configuring at that granularity: apple's is more than sufficient for 99.9999% of all use cases. All the supposedly superior Android features in this entire thread are things only a minute fraction of tinkerers actually care about.
        goosedragons 4y ago
        Yes, everything you don't care about is some minute fraction of tinkerers. I bet you thought only some minute fraction of tinkerers wanted copy and paste, a notification shade, widgets, always on display etc.
smokelegend 4y ago
One could make the argument that Apple has to have something that Android doesn't... a faster cpu? This doesn't mean that Android needs to have the fastest cpu, because they can do more with the resources they have better then Apple does. Wireless charging android phone to android phone, done. Wireless charging your headphone case from your Android phone, done. Want to plug in a hard drive, ssd, ide, cd-rom, 3.5inchers, printer, keyboard, mouse, monitor, done, done, done, it all gets done on android. You see I care more about functionality/utility them cpu speed. And as others have pointed out battery life is still the most critical priority....because who cares how fast your frame rates are if you can only play for 15min before running the battery dead... Next 5yrs the battery technology for these handheld devices will be insane. Imagine not charging your phone for a week....
- sidlls 4y ago
  Yes, you fit in the “rounding error” group of users. Nobody (almost) cares about any of the features you noted. I’m not talking technology-ignorant people, either: the vast majority of phone users, including sophisticated users, use it for basic app functionality and texting. They aren’t hooking up hard drives or keyboards and don’t even want to.