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Germany. I wasn't exactly laid off, just left in a bad time. Zero applications, just recruiters reaching out, I started 8 processes, 4 are still ongoing, on 2 I
by whstl 4y ago
Germany. I wasn't exactly laid off, just left in a bad time. Zero applications, just recruiters reaching out, I started 8 processes, 4 are still ongoing, on 2 I got ghosted, but got 2 offers so far which I gotta answer till next week.
EDIT: I got 18 years of experience, web full stack (react/vue/golang/rails/C#/haskell) + devops, if that matters.
- layer8 4y agoWhat’s the salary on the offers you have, and in which region of Germany is that? Just curious.
- whstl 4y agoBerlin. 140k and 150k but I'm still shopping.
- layer8 4y agoThanks! Are those IC or project/team lead positions?
- whstl 4y agoTeam Lead!
- Yoric 4y agoDo they make difference between "tech lead" and "team lead"? Asking for a friend :)
- whstl 4y agoYes! Team Lead has a management component to it. You often handle 1-on-1s, promotions, conflicts resolution, lead hiring processes, act a middleman to other parts of the company, but you still code (unlike a "pure" manager). Tech lead is more of a tech-only role, and there's often a non-coding manager present as well. All IME of course.
- Yoric 4y agoMakes sense, thanks!
- FlyingSnake 4y agoWow, that's really above the top tier in Berlin for SW developers. Are there companies paying for ICs in that range?
- whstl 4y agoKeep in mind that's for team lead (which is "50% IC" I guess). But it's not exactly hard to see around 110k-120k for senior freelancing/consulting positions when you have good experience and great contacts. Also I see some Principal/Staff that make around this, this but those positions are sort of "tailor made" for certain individuals and are often "internal" and hard to apply for. EDIT: Also the market moved quite a bit recently. A few years ago I wouldn't see this salary range at all. Also notice I'm getting old... Due to my experience/resumé I was also headhunted for principal and CTO positions, so there's that.
- FlyingSnake 4y agoYou've got an interesting story and a great outlook. Would you be up for a coffee? I would love to chat and share notes with you. I'm also based in Berlin.
- manish_gill 4y agoI'm also based in Berlin. Do you mind if I ask what companies are you talking to?
- whstl 4y agoThe processes are still ongoing (haven't decided on the offers yet), but happy to share the info in a few weeks.
- Yoric 4y agoOut of curiosity, any offer in Haskell?
- whstl 4y agoUnfortunately not yet! However I did talk with some recruiters that wanted me to work with Clojure and Elixir, despite not having written a single line in them, purely because I knew Haskell. Which is kinda interesting because years ago I noticed some resistance from companies in hiring Senior/Principal/Staff in languages other than their main.
- Yoric 4y agoYeah, I did notice more open minds.
- elforce002 4y agoCongrats.
- whstl 4y agoThanks!