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As someone that works in search - TBH - we don't really know. And the point isn't that people "know" its more about hedging that there likely is some kind of us

As someone that works in search - TBH - we don't really know. And the point isn't that people "know" its more about hedging that there likely is some kind of use case where it becomes important. Nobody knows until they try something. You're right to be skeptical. However, it's been observed, people are using chatbots for informational searches. The kinds of searches where you want to learn about a specific fact. This isn't all searches, but it's an important subset for web search. For better or worse, with probably a high degree of inaccuracy, people (probably rightly) perceive this is how people will seek information. There's also the generational use cases - "write me a program that does X". Is this something people would use a search bar for? We don't know, and wouldn't know, until its out there for a while. For the longest time the one natural language interface was as a search bar. So search vendors surmise it's important to both defend their turf while also a natural way to get regular users familiar with this kind of informational interaction...

gremlinsinc 4y ago
I find myself using google less and less, all search -really. I messed up my desktop the other day configuring and trying different DE's and window managers, chatGPT fixed some of my issues that would've had me in archlinux forums and reddit for a couple hours probably. Instead it was all good in 20 minutes. Personally, I think Microsoft has a HUGE opportunity here, imagine if the OpenAI - PRO account was actually free -- but only on edge browsers, or inside bing.com. It'd be a bit of a loss leader for a bit, because a lot of compute is required but it'd also help unseat google. Google's only chance is if lamda/bard is better - and so much better it's noticable from day one. Their search results are so horrible lately I don't know anybody who isn't 'shopping around' right now for something better. Bing, DDG, Brave, Neeva, You.com, etc.
- grugagag 4y ago
  > Personally, I think Microsoft has a HUGE opportunity here, imagine if the OpenAI - PRO account was actually free -- but only on edge browsers, or inside bing.com If that were true I’d see people downloading edge and only using it for LLMs. MS hasn’t figured out how to monetize it yet, their only goal is to catch up and possibly dethrone google. Not an easy feat from MS who have blundered and still blunder a lot. Google search on the other hand is becoming less and less useful day by day.
trieste92 4y ago
> There's also the generational use cases - "write me a program that does X". Is this something people would use a search bar for? We don't know, and wouldn't know, until its out there for a while. Oh God. I seriously, seriously hope not. I can imagine some coasters I work with shitting out source code doing this Anyone who trusts an LLM and is committing to a code base that other people work on - I would never want to work with someone with this attitude. Physically writing code takes far less time than understanding code

gremlinsinc 4y ago

I find myself using google less and less, all search -really. I messed up my desktop the other day configuring and trying different DE's and window managers, chatGPT fixed some of my issues that would've had me in archlinux forums and reddit for a couple hours probably. Instead it was all good in 20 minutes. Personally, I think Microsoft has a HUGE opportunity here, imagine if the OpenAI - PRO account was actually free -- but only on edge browsers, or inside bing.com. It'd be a bit of a loss leader for a bit, because a lot of compute is required but it'd also help unseat google. Google's only chance is if lamda/bard is better - and so much better it's noticable from day one. Their search results are so horrible lately I don't know anybody who isn't 'shopping around' right now for something better. Bing, DDG, Brave, Neeva, You.com, etc.

grugagag 4y ago
> Personally, I think Microsoft has a HUGE opportunity here, imagine if the OpenAI - PRO account was actually free -- but only on edge browsers, or inside bing.com If that were true I’d see people downloading edge and only using it for LLMs. MS hasn’t figured out how to monetize it yet, their only goal is to catch up and possibly dethrone google. Not an easy feat from MS who have blundered and still blunder a lot. Google search on the other hand is becoming less and less useful day by day.

trieste92 4y ago

> There's also the generational use cases - "write me a program that does X". Is this something people would use a search bar for? We don't know, and wouldn't know, until its out there for a while. Oh God. I seriously, seriously hope not. I can imagine some coasters I work with shitting out source code doing this Anyone who trusts an LLM and is committing to a code base that other people work on - I would never want to work with someone with this attitude. Physically writing code takes far less time than understanding code