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that people of those backgrounds are inherently more lazy No more than the average Southern white American is inherently more racist. Your culture is an influe
by causi 4y ago
that people of those backgrounds are inherently more lazy
No more than the average Southern white American is inherently more racist. Your culture is an influence, an advantage or disadvantage for any particular endeavor. If the endeavor in question is academic and economic success in the academic and economic environment of early 21st century America and Western Europe, growing up in most Asian immigrant cultures will confer upon you an advantage in the form of habits, behaviors, and attitudes.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoDoesn't it then follow that children of wealthy parents who have been tutored, been able to afford going to better schools, and not had to keep down a job to for pay for their college are more meritorious?
- AlgorithmicTime 4y ago[dead]
- causi 4y agoYou're entirely correct, but DEI doesn't only concern itself with class differences. If it did there would be no D or I in it. It deepens socio-ethnic divides by declaring that what color your skin is determines what your grades are worth, what opinions you're allowed to express, whether or not you are worthy to occupy a particular place in academics or business or society.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoIs there a way to reduce the divides? If DEI increases them and the status quo sustains them, how do we make things better? Or are things fine as they are?
- causi 4y agoAdvantage applicants based on their perceived accomplishment, ability, and effort without taking into account their ethnicity.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoAh, ok, so you're saying things were fine before DEI?
- causi 4y agoNo, I am saying racial discrimination is wrong regardless of whether or not you expect it to make the world a better place. Also, Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoWould you agree then, that we need to deal with the racial discrimination in society to ensure that those groups who are disadvantaged so that they aren't able to compete on the same playing field when applying for jobs which hire based upon merit can have a chance? Right now DEI is trying to solve a problem at the finish line that should be solved before the job race starts? If so, how do we do so without considering race?
- causi 4y agoWould you agree then, that we need to deal with the racial discrimination in society to ensure that those groups who are disadvantaged so that they aren't able to compete on the same playing field when applying for jobs which hire based upon merit can have a chance? Absolutely. Right now DEI is trying to solve a problem at the finish line that should be solved before the job race starts? Kinda. DEI is trying to address an outcome that is in large part caused by disadvantage and discrimination. The outcome itself, in this case the ethnic makeup of academic and business positions not precisely reflecting the ethnic makeup of the country, is not by itself bad or good, just as it isn't "evil" that most nail techs are women. It's an indicator, not a disease. Artificially manipulating the racial makeup of a company or university is like dunking your head in ice water and saying "look, no fever!" If so, how do we do so without considering race? You address disadvantages that include those stemming from race without counting race itself. If your admissions process, for example, gives X points for coming from a single parent household, then those points will be distributed to each race in exact proportion that race experiences disadvantage from having single-parent households. Same for poverty and other factors.