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okay... so now lets say i pay 30% in taxes on my income, great.. now I go into a store, and I buy some things.. woop, how much sales tax? oh shit, now we're at

okay... so now lets say i pay 30% in taxes on my income, great.. now I go into a store, and I buy some things.. woop, how much sales tax? oh shit, now we're at 50%. how many tolls and various other insane things have to be paid to the government?

onion2k 4y ago
Even if you include VAT the chances are that you spend quite a small amount of your money on VAT-rated goods. There's only so much stuff you can buy. Most of your earnings are probably going on a mortgage or being invested, neither or which have VAT on them.
- gabereiser 4y ago
  This is why initiatives to reform our healthcare system fail. People disillusioned with what it entails. They see taxes. They see money going to waste or worse, to people who don't deserve their support. Like the elderly. Or the sick. I'm not sick, why should I have to pay for you? American Greed Inc.
  - redeeman 4y ago
    wouldnt it then be much better to separate it out, so likeminded people can pay for what they want? you say a large amount of people are happy to pay? great! make a healthcare system like you want. Guess what? I also wish to purchase healthcare services, I just dont want to be forced to purchase the crap the local regime forces upon me. and what does it matter to you if I can opt out of paying? one less person to serve? great? everyone is happy.
- redeeman 4y ago
  right... the mortgage to pay for my house, constructed and made with materials that were once sold, and had VAT collected. either way, that is not the case for the majority of my income. and dont get me started on when I go to purchase gasoline here in europe, not only am i first hit with 50% income tax, then a cool >20% sales tax, and then the outrageous taxes on the gasoline itself and the related industries. so I buy €100 worth of product, and more than 95 of them go to the government. Thanks! you sure did 95% of the work for me there (not)

onion2k 4y ago

Even if you include VAT the chances are that you spend quite a small amount of your money on VAT-rated goods. There's only so much stuff you can buy. Most of your earnings are probably going on a mortgage or being invested, neither or which have VAT on them.

gabereiser 4y ago
This is why initiatives to reform our healthcare system fail. People disillusioned with what it entails. They see taxes. They see money going to waste or worse, to people who don't deserve their support. Like the elderly. Or the sick. I'm not sick, why should I have to pay for you? American Greed Inc.
- redeeman 4y ago
  wouldnt it then be much better to separate it out, so likeminded people can pay for what they want? you say a large amount of people are happy to pay? great! make a healthcare system like you want. Guess what? I also wish to purchase healthcare services, I just dont want to be forced to purchase the crap the local regime forces upon me. and what does it matter to you if I can opt out of paying? one less person to serve? great? everyone is happy.
redeeman 4y ago
right... the mortgage to pay for my house, constructed and made with materials that were once sold, and had VAT collected. either way, that is not the case for the majority of my income. and dont get me started on when I go to purchase gasoline here in europe, not only am i first hit with 50% income tax, then a cool >20% sales tax, and then the outrageous taxes on the gasoline itself and the related industries. so I buy €100 worth of product, and more than 95 of them go to the government. Thanks! you sure did 95% of the work for me there (not)