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"Artificial" is not synonymous with "fake". "Fake" implies a level of deception.

sfpotter 4y ago
Not necessarily true. People talk about “fake meat” all the time but it’s clear there’s no level of fraudulence implied by this usage. It’s meant in the sense of “artificial meat”. There are multiple ways the word “fake” is used, and one is as a synonym for “artificial”. However, in this case, it does seem that there is a level of fraudulence and deception. Given that “fake” often is used exactly the way you say, maybe “fake intelligence” would indeed be a more appropriate term.
- Diggsey 4y ago
  Fake meat is still a form of deception; it's something that's not meat pretending to be meat. If lab grown meat gets good enough to be indistinguishable from "real" meat, then it would no longer be fake, it would just be artificial.
  - sfpotter 4y ago
    Is “fake grass” (i.e. astroturf) a form of deception in your eyes?
    - cmoski 4y ago
      When seen at a distance, it can trick people into thinking you have a perfectly manicured lawn. But you're just lazy/evil/it's a holiday house. Deception!
    - sfpotter 4y ago
      Haha. I give up. :-)
- blueblob 4y ago
  Have you been around people who say "fake meat?" Every time I've heard it, it was said derisively and implied fraudulent meat.
  - sfpotter 4y ago
    Yes. I’ve heard loads of people refer to it as fake without an implied pejorative meaning.
    - blueblob 4y ago
      The people I know that like it use artificial and the people that won't try it use fake.
      - sfpotter 4y ago
        Fascinating. Not all people are the same. Who’d have thought?
        blueblob 4y ago
        Definitely. Quirks like this are also what makes AI difficult.
wnkrshm 4y ago
Superficial Intelligence may hit the mark there.
devnull3 4y ago
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Not necessarily true. People talk about “fake meat” all the time but it’s clear there’s no level of fraudulence implied by this usage. It’s meant in the sense of “artificial meat”. There are multiple ways the word “fake” is used, and one is as a synonym for “artificial”. However, in this case, it does seem that there is a level of fraudulence and deception. Given that “fake” often is used exactly the way you say, maybe “fake intelligence” would indeed be a more appropriate term.

Diggsey 4y ago
Fake meat is still a form of deception; it's something that's not meat pretending to be meat. If lab grown meat gets good enough to be indistinguishable from "real" meat, then it would no longer be fake, it would just be artificial.
- sfpotter 4y ago
  Is “fake grass” (i.e. astroturf) a form of deception in your eyes?
  - cmoski 4y ago
    When seen at a distance, it can trick people into thinking you have a perfectly manicured lawn. But you're just lazy/evil/it's a holiday house. Deception!
  - sfpotter 4y ago
    Haha. I give up. :-)
blueblob 4y ago
Have you been around people who say "fake meat?" Every time I've heard it, it was said derisively and implied fraudulent meat.
- sfpotter 4y ago
  Yes. I’ve heard loads of people refer to it as fake without an implied pejorative meaning.
  - blueblob 4y ago
    The people I know that like it use artificial and the people that won't try it use fake.
    - sfpotter 4y ago
      Fascinating. Not all people are the same. Who’d have thought?
      - blueblob 4y ago
        Definitely. Quirks like this are also what makes AI difficult.

wnkrshm 4y ago

Superficial Intelligence may hit the mark there.

devnull3 4y ago

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