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Meditation has lots of research to back things up. Maybe look into it before having an opinion about it? > Meditation comes from Asia, where the culture is tha

Meditation has lots of research to back things up. Maybe look into it before having an opinion about it? > Meditation comes from Asia, where the culture is that of escape from the world versus the Western culture of embracing the world head on. Ouch. > I learned that Adderall is used for ADHD and one other condition: narcolepsy. This further implies the connection between attention/executive control and sleepiness. What? How on earth can you just make this assumption, especially if you have no idea how the brain works? Sorry, but this is just controversial garbage.

spoiler 4y ago
I can't tell if the post is just embellished in places for comedic effect or if they sound like a not very nice person with a big ego. I mean, they tried to impose their somewhat ludicrous display set-up on people, and then though people were stupid for having different preferences... I've never seen a person with such strong convictions over trivialities. At least not a real person. They also used to hold strong opinions and convictions about subjects they know nothing about as well. What do you even call this? I'm glad they have become a bit wiser, though.
- RamblingCTO 4y ago
  > They also used to hold strong opinions and convictions about subjects they know nothing about as well. What do you even call this? Ignorant? I actually met a few people in my live going about live like this. I never stuck around long enough to get more insight into how people like this function, would've been pretty interesting I guess. Especially what story they have, how their childhood has been etc.
- chemmail 4y ago
  What do you call these people? Republicans/Democrats.
- alar44 4y ago
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Llamamoe 4y ago
The assumption comes from a really dumb place but is essentially right. Wakefulness is critical for executive functions(both directly and through the fact that they're really expensive energetically and need a well-rested neural substrate), and fatigue is the primary driver of deficits in motivation. I strongly suspect that many ADHD cases are actually non-apneic sleep disordered breathing going undiagnosed due to outdated criteria, and I've seen cases of SDB being misdiagnosed as T2 narcolepsy too.
- RamblingCTO 4y ago
  > fatigue is the primary driver of deficits in motivation. Well, that I experience first hand haha. I was actually diagnosed with ADHD as a child and had trouble sleeping (allergies and social anxiety) and still have to this day. So one more supporting data point! Any books/resources you would recommend for a deep dive (regarding sleep and neuro-functions, I'm not that interested in ADHD)?
  - Llamamoe 4y ago
    I'll one up that request, I actually have a write-up where I detail why I believe a substantial proportion of ADHD cases is probably the ongoing effect of undiagnosed non-apneic sleep disordered breathing rather than solely/primarily a neurodevelopmental outcome. It links publications on sleep as well: https://gist.github.com/Asmageddon/4a952260c0fc9875f477d68136d5e164 https://gist.github.com/Asmageddon/4a952260c0fc9875f477d6813...
serverlessmania 4y ago
OP talk about sleepiness, and Adderall didn't work only for that, coffee is largely enough for sleepiness, while Adderall feed you with a rash of dopamine that puts your entire being in complete other state, and dopamine can make you focus on whatever shit you are doing even if it's the most boring staff to you.

spoiler 4y ago

I can't tell if the post is just embellished in places for comedic effect or if they sound like a not very nice person with a big ego. I mean, they tried to impose their somewhat ludicrous display set-up on people, and then though people were stupid for having different preferences... I've never seen a person with such strong convictions over trivialities. At least not a real person. They also used to hold strong opinions and convictions about subjects they know nothing about as well. What do you even call this? I'm glad they have become a bit wiser, though.

RamblingCTO 4y ago
> They also used to hold strong opinions and convictions about subjects they know nothing about as well. What do you even call this? Ignorant? I actually met a few people in my live going about live like this. I never stuck around long enough to get more insight into how people like this function, would've been pretty interesting I guess. Especially what story they have, how their childhood has been etc.
chemmail 4y ago
What do you call these people? Republicans/Democrats.
alar44 4y ago
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Llamamoe 4y ago

The assumption comes from a really dumb place but is essentially right. Wakefulness is critical for executive functions(both directly and through the fact that they're really expensive energetically and need a well-rested neural substrate), and fatigue is the primary driver of deficits in motivation. I strongly suspect that many ADHD cases are actually non-apneic sleep disordered breathing going undiagnosed due to outdated criteria, and I've seen cases of SDB being misdiagnosed as T2 narcolepsy too.

RamblingCTO 4y ago
> fatigue is the primary driver of deficits in motivation. Well, that I experience first hand haha. I was actually diagnosed with ADHD as a child and had trouble sleeping (allergies and social anxiety) and still have to this day. So one more supporting data point! Any books/resources you would recommend for a deep dive (regarding sleep and neuro-functions, I'm not that interested in ADHD)?
- Llamamoe 4y ago
  I'll one up that request, I actually have a write-up where I detail why I believe a substantial proportion of ADHD cases is probably the ongoing effect of undiagnosed non-apneic sleep disordered breathing rather than solely/primarily a neurodevelopmental outcome. It links publications on sleep as well: https://gist.github.com/Asmageddon/4a952260c0fc9875f477d68136d5e164 https://gist.github.com/Asmageddon/4a952260c0fc9875f477d6813...

serverlessmania 4y ago

OP talk about sleepiness, and Adderall didn't work only for that, coffee is largely enough for sleepiness, while Adderall feed you with a rash of dopamine that puts your entire being in complete other state, and dopamine can make you focus on whatever shit you are doing even if it's the most boring staff to you.