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> in 2050 it will be an accepted fact that focus on psychological health (including meditation) was one of the biggest biggest disasters for the advancement of

> in 2050 it will be an accepted fact that focus on psychological health (including meditation) was one of the biggest biggest disasters for the advancement of humanity ever > Get minimum possible sustainable amount of sleep Wow those original opinions were some seriously hot takes. Please don’t hustle and grustle yourself to the expense of your mental/physical health.

sph 4y ago
With such ridiculous hot takes last year, I would not trust that whatever prediction they make this year is any more rooted in reality, even though they seem more valid this time around. Except the 16 inch monitor part. I bet their neck and eyes enjoy looking down at a small screen for a dozen hours a day.
- poulpy123 4y ago
  In 2023 he will discover that an exclusive Cheerios diet isn't great
blue039 4y ago
I dont know if the take is as hot as you think. Meditation is cool and good (I try to do it) but it's not the panacea that, like all new age things, the average hacker news reader thinks it is. Optimizing sleep improves productivity. Not a hot take. I don't know anyone who enjoys blowing an entire day sleeping. Do you? Perhaps people who are ill (whether they know or not) need 12-14 hours of sleep a day but a normal healthy person can get by on 6-8 with 7 being the recommended median for most people. Psychological health is the hardest problem we face. The entire field of mental health is rife with fraud. Psychology as a "science" suffers from one of the greatest reproducibility failures we have witnessed. We have legitimately no idea why "mental health" is a problem in 99% of cases and our medicines and treatments are only marginally better than electroconvulsive therapy and divination to drive bad spirits away. We have, for example, almost no idea how and why SSRIs work. Many anti-depressant studies fail to reproduce. We often overmedicate people who just have a little sadness resulting in even more difficult and sometimes fatal problems. The only other field with more problems is chiropractic which, by my estimation, is only marginally less scientific than psychology. In fact if I pulled a random psychology study and compared it's reproducibility to a study on cracking people's spines to fix slipped discs I'd imagine they'd be similarly impossible to reproduce.
- sph 4y ago
  > Meditation is cool and good (I try to do it) but it's not the panacea That's not what they're saying though. They literally said focus on mental health is one of the worst things we have done to the human race. People thinking in absolutes don't have much insight to offer, especially if they are unafraid to voice them out loud.
- procinct 4y ago
  My point was more around him saying that focus on psychological health will be looked back on as one of the worst things to happen for humanity. Also, I’m certainly not saying sleep the day away, but sleeping until you feel well rested feels pretty obvious. There’s a big difference between getting the minimum amount of sleep to get through a day and getting enough sleep to get through a day with high energy levels (as the author also found). Also, if you do any sort of intensive working out (as most people should) sleep is an absolutely necessary part of your recovery.
- birksherty 4y ago
  > Optimizing sleep improves productivity. This is the issue with modern world. Everything has to increase productivity, hustle life. Multiple studies showed people need more sleep. > blowing an entire day sleeping Who said sleep entire day? All these takes are from capitalist hustle culture, does not have any scientific base.

sph 4y ago

With such ridiculous hot takes last year, I would not trust that whatever prediction they make this year is any more rooted in reality, even though they seem more valid this time around. Except the 16 inch monitor part. I bet their neck and eyes enjoy looking down at a small screen for a dozen hours a day.

poulpy123 4y ago
In 2023 he will discover that an exclusive Cheerios diet isn't great

blue039 4y ago

I dont know if the take is as hot as you think. Meditation is cool and good (I try to do it) but it's not the panacea that, like all new age things, the average hacker news reader thinks it is. Optimizing sleep improves productivity. Not a hot take. I don't know anyone who enjoys blowing an entire day sleeping. Do you? Perhaps people who are ill (whether they know or not) need 12-14 hours of sleep a day but a normal healthy person can get by on 6-8 with 7 being the recommended median for most people. Psychological health is the hardest problem we face. The entire field of mental health is rife with fraud. Psychology as a "science" suffers from one of the greatest reproducibility failures we have witnessed. We have legitimately no idea why "mental health" is a problem in 99% of cases and our medicines and treatments are only marginally better than electroconvulsive therapy and divination to drive bad spirits away. We have, for example, almost no idea how and why SSRIs work. Many anti-depressant studies fail to reproduce. We often overmedicate people who just have a little sadness resulting in even more difficult and sometimes fatal problems. The only other field with more problems is chiropractic which, by my estimation, is only marginally less scientific than psychology. In fact if I pulled a random psychology study and compared it's reproducibility to a study on cracking people's spines to fix slipped discs I'd imagine they'd be similarly impossible to reproduce.

sph 4y ago
> Meditation is cool and good (I try to do it) but it's not the panacea That's not what they're saying though. They literally said focus on mental health is one of the worst things we have done to the human race. People thinking in absolutes don't have much insight to offer, especially if they are unafraid to voice them out loud.
procinct 4y ago
My point was more around him saying that focus on psychological health will be looked back on as one of the worst things to happen for humanity. Also, I’m certainly not saying sleep the day away, but sleeping until you feel well rested feels pretty obvious. There’s a big difference between getting the minimum amount of sleep to get through a day and getting enough sleep to get through a day with high energy levels (as the author also found). Also, if you do any sort of intensive working out (as most people should) sleep is an absolutely necessary part of your recovery.
birksherty 4y ago
> Optimizing sleep improves productivity. This is the issue with modern world. Everything has to increase productivity, hustle life. Multiple studies showed people need more sleep. > blowing an entire day sleeping Who said sleep entire day? All these takes are from capitalist hustle culture, does not have any scientific base.