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There are a few apps in this space worth checking out Photorprism Photostructure Lychee Digikam Synology Photos (if you have a synology) And probably a fe

There are a few apps in this space worth checking out Photorprism Photostructure Lychee Digikam Synology Photos (if you have a synology) And probably a few others I am forgetting.

askiiart 4y ago
There's also IMMICH, pretty much a 1-to-1 clone of Google Photos.
rainbowzootsuit 4y ago
I will add immich which has been getting good development lately. https://immich.app/ https://immich.app/ https://github.com/immich-app/immich https://github.com/immich-app/immich
mceachen 4y ago
Howdy! I'm the author of PhotoStructure. If you're thinking about self-hosting anything, my first recommendation is to get your backups in order now, before doing anything else. I wrote this a while back: <https://photostructure.com/faq/how-do-i-safely-store-files/ https://photostructure.com/faq/how-do-i-safely-store-files/>. Having a full, offline backup will only cost ~$20/TiB nowadays, which is cheap insurance if whatever app you try out doesn't quite behave as you expected it to. The second step is to make sure your server is both hardened (<https://forum.photostructure.com/t/server-hardening-for-beginners/1027 https://forum.photostructure.com/t/server-hardening-for-begi...>), and ideally, only available via a VPN (like TailScale) or at least via a reverse proxy (Cloudflare has a free solution). I compared and contrasted some of these solutions (along with instructions) here: <https://photostructure.com/faq/remote-access/#accessing-your-library-on-the-wan https://photostructure.com/faq/remote-access/#accessing-your...> The situation for self-hosting your photos just a couple years ago was pretty bleak--especially if you had hundreds of thousands (or more!) of photos. That may sound like a lot of photos, but for people shooting digital for 20+ years, it really isn't! Whatever image manager you pick, make sure the app follows existing metadata storage standards, so in the (seemingly inevitable) future when the app is abandoned, your photos are in directory structures that make sense to you, and the work you've put into organizing them isn't locked up in unreadable databases or folder structures. Spoiler alert: I got burned by this issue with prior apps, so I designed PhotoStructure from the ground up with exactly this in mind: <https://photostructure.com/faq/why-photostructure/#open-standards-and-formats https://photostructure.com/faq/why-photostructure/#open-stan...>. Unfortunately, many/most self-hosted solutions don't handle multiple source directories and configurable destination directories.
- reedlaw 4y ago
  Enjoyed your article on backups. I was intrigued by the idea of NAS as a solution to bit rot, but when I looked at NAS products, sticker shock dampened my interest. I've been using git-annex so I looked into how it deals with bit rot. It shares the same backup philosophy as git: lots of copies to keep stuff safe. See https://git-annex.branchable.com/todo/Wishlist__58___Parity_files_on_all_files/#comment-a7a381bfc1b5d9989bb3de49e0cdf27c https://git-annex.branchable.com/todo/Wishlist__58___Parity_...
- quaffapint 4y ago
  Do you have a demo for PhotoStructure? Didn't see anything on the site. I'm really looking more for a Picasa replacement that respects my file structure and displays it as such.
  - mceachen 4y ago
    Sorry, it’s been on my todo list for a while. The UI is pretty simple (by design): there's only the initial welcome and settings pages, the asset page, and the tag gallery. Screenshots are all on <https://photostructure.com/faq/why-photostructure/ https://photostructure.com/faq/why-photostructure/> I normally suggest people just try it out on their stuff—it runs pretty much everywhere. Hop into our discord <https://phstr.com/go/discord https://phstr.com/go/discord> if you have any questions or comments, I’m online.
- NhanH 4y ago
  As a user (soon to be paid, life keeps getting in the way and I keep forgetting), I highly recommend Photostructure over Photoprism. I don’t have my notes here, so I can’t elaborate much why. But the gist from my memory is that photoprism has a lot of features, and naturally no single user is gonna needs all of those. But the installation is quite a bit more painful, and it is slower as a result. I recalled it building tensorflow on my freebsd machine when installing (which failed, due to bazel failing to build, due to them hardcoding an url download of a library which recently got updated and the link doesn’t work, you get the idea).
  - 4y ago
thefourthchime 4y ago
Do any of these work with S3 and EC2? I would like to host a Google Photo's like app myself on AWS.
jerieljan 4y ago
Synology Photos doesn't get much of a mention here because it's tied to the Synology brand of NAS products, but I have to admit that it's one of the best Google Photos replacements out there even though it's lacking features that they've implemented in their previous app, Moments. I really love it because it does Google Photos' backup workflow where it backs everything up automatically, and allows you to clean up local storage for photos saved in the NAS, and it works reliably for both Android and iOS. It's a feature that's absolutely necessary when managing phones and tablets from family members who aren't tech-savvy but definitely need to back every photo up without clogging up their phone storage.
- kieckerjan 4y ago
  I find it has its priorities backwards. Fancy search? Check. Fullscreen slideshow? Nope, sorry.
wakeupcall 4y ago
Is there an alternative to google photo without all the upselling? I'm setting up setup a new phone which has google photo as the default gallery app, and if you're not in the US and/pr don't want to use the google services, most of the stuff you have in the menus is literally worthless. The "print service", for one. It's right in your face most of the time, but there is no option to turn it off if you basically can't use it. I've been using "Simple Gallery Pro", but it lacks basic video editing support. I don't need anything fancy, but trimming videos is something you often need to do for sharing. Any recommendations on the same vein?

There are a few apps in this space worth checking out Photorprism Photostructure Lychee Digikam Synology Photos (if you have a synology) And probably a few others I am forgetting.

askiiart 4y ago

There's also IMMICH, pretty much a 1-to-1 clone of Google Photos.

rainbowzootsuit 4y ago

I will add immich which has been getting good development lately. https://immich.app/ https://immich.app/ https://github.com/immich-app/immich https://github.com/immich-app/immich

mceachen 4y ago

Howdy! I'm the author of PhotoStructure. If you're thinking about self-hosting anything, my first recommendation is to get your backups in order now, before doing anything else. I wrote this a while back: <https://photostructure.com/faq/how-do-i-safely-store-files/ https://photostructure.com/faq/how-do-i-safely-store-files/>. Having a full, offline backup will only cost ~$20/TiB nowadays, which is cheap insurance if whatever app you try out doesn't quite behave as you expected it to. The second step is to make sure your server is both hardened (<https://forum.photostructure.com/t/server-hardening-for-beginners/1027 https://forum.photostructure.com/t/server-hardening-for-begi...>), and ideally, only available via a VPN (like TailScale) or at least via a reverse proxy (Cloudflare has a free solution). I compared and contrasted some of these solutions (along with instructions) here: <https://photostructure.com/faq/remote-access/#accessing-your-library-on-the-wan https://photostructure.com/faq/remote-access/#accessing-your...> The situation for self-hosting your photos just a couple years ago was pretty bleak--especially if you had hundreds of thousands (or more!) of photos. That may sound like a lot of photos, but for people shooting digital for 20+ years, it really isn't! Whatever image manager you pick, make sure the app follows existing metadata storage standards, so in the (seemingly inevitable) future when the app is abandoned, your photos are in directory structures that make sense to you, and the work you've put into organizing them isn't locked up in unreadable databases or folder structures. Spoiler alert: I got burned by this issue with prior apps, so I designed PhotoStructure from the ground up with exactly this in mind: <https://photostructure.com/faq/why-photostructure/#open-standards-and-formats https://photostructure.com/faq/why-photostructure/#open-stan...>. Unfortunately, many/most self-hosted solutions don't handle multiple source directories and configurable destination directories.

reedlaw 4y ago
Enjoyed your article on backups. I was intrigued by the idea of NAS as a solution to bit rot, but when I looked at NAS products, sticker shock dampened my interest. I've been using git-annex so I looked into how it deals with bit rot. It shares the same backup philosophy as git: lots of copies to keep stuff safe. See https://git-annex.branchable.com/todo/Wishlist__58___Parity_files_on_all_files/#comment-a7a381bfc1b5d9989bb3de49e0cdf27c https://git-annex.branchable.com/todo/Wishlist__58___Parity_...
quaffapint 4y ago
Do you have a demo for PhotoStructure? Didn't see anything on the site. I'm really looking more for a Picasa replacement that respects my file structure and displays it as such.
- mceachen 4y ago
  Sorry, it’s been on my todo list for a while. The UI is pretty simple (by design): there's only the initial welcome and settings pages, the asset page, and the tag gallery. Screenshots are all on <https://photostructure.com/faq/why-photostructure/ https://photostructure.com/faq/why-photostructure/> I normally suggest people just try it out on their stuff—it runs pretty much everywhere. Hop into our discord <https://phstr.com/go/discord https://phstr.com/go/discord> if you have any questions or comments, I’m online.
NhanH 4y ago
As a user (soon to be paid, life keeps getting in the way and I keep forgetting), I highly recommend Photostructure over Photoprism. I don’t have my notes here, so I can’t elaborate much why. But the gist from my memory is that photoprism has a lot of features, and naturally no single user is gonna needs all of those. But the installation is quite a bit more painful, and it is slower as a result. I recalled it building tensorflow on my freebsd machine when installing (which failed, due to bazel failing to build, due to them hardcoding an url download of a library which recently got updated and the link doesn’t work, you get the idea).
- 4y ago

thefourthchime 4y ago

Do any of these work with S3 and EC2? I would like to host a Google Photo's like app myself on AWS.

jerieljan 4y ago

Synology Photos doesn't get much of a mention here because it's tied to the Synology brand of NAS products, but I have to admit that it's one of the best Google Photos replacements out there even though it's lacking features that they've implemented in their previous app, Moments. I really love it because it does Google Photos' backup workflow where it backs everything up automatically, and allows you to clean up local storage for photos saved in the NAS, and it works reliably for both Android and iOS. It's a feature that's absolutely necessary when managing phones and tablets from family members who aren't tech-savvy but definitely need to back every photo up without clogging up their phone storage.

kieckerjan 4y ago
I find it has its priorities backwards. Fancy search? Check. Fullscreen slideshow? Nope, sorry.

wakeupcall 4y ago

Is there an alternative to google photo without all the upselling? I'm setting up setup a new phone which has google photo as the default gallery app, and if you're not in the US and/pr don't want to use the google services, most of the stuff you have in the menus is literally worthless. The "print service", for one. It's right in your face most of the time, but there is no option to turn it off if you basically can't use it. I've been using "Simple Gallery Pro", but it lacks basic video editing support. I don't need anything fancy, but trimming videos is something you often need to do for sharing. Any recommendations on the same vein?