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I don’t think that’s fair to say that if one is using it professionally. If it puts food on the table you just have to grin and bear the things you don’t like.

I don’t think that’s fair to say that if one is using it professionally. If it puts food on the table you just have to grin and bear the things you don’t like. It’s not realistic to give up a tool that makes you money over personal feelings about telemetry and the like.

exodust 4y ago
It's not about giving up a tool, it's about swapping it for a different tool. Creating a "food on table" dependency with Adobe is what's unrealistic.
- t0bia_s 4y ago
  I'm profesionall freelance artist, with daily usages of Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Premiere, After Effects, Audition and Lightroom. Yes, it literally brings food to my family on table. No, there is no competition if you need compatible project between different programs (dynamic link). After Effects don't have alternative at all. No, Adobe wont work on linux. MacOS is not alternative for Win in term of privacy. And usually overpriced if you need power.
  - exodust 4y ago
    > literally brings food It literally doesn't. > I'm profesionall freelance artist Artists shouldn't be tied to brands and products. Artists get shit done using tools they have available. All you've done is list 7 Adobe products, claiming "no competition", no choice but to subscribe to Adobe. The bottom line is you make things for clients: videos, illustrations etc. If Adobe Cloud crashed tomorrow, would you remove your clothes and wander the streets in despair? Crying and begging for food? No. You'd get the job done using other tools. Because you're an Artist, you're resourceful.
    - t0bia_s 4y ago
      "Artists get shit done using tools they have available." Agree. Those are tools named from Adobe, not the only I use. "If Adobe Cloud crashed tomorrow, would you remove your clothes and wander the streets in despair?" If your ISP or power has blackout, would you? "Because you're an Artist, you're resourceful." Also pragmatic. I use tools to get things done faster. Adobe has top notch software developed over decade by payed professionals, with millions of investment. I strongly disagree with their terms of use (no option to work offline is ridiculous), but as you said. Artist are resourceful. It doesn't change anything on fact that I would like to abandon Windows completely and stick with linux.

exodust 4y ago

It's not about giving up a tool, it's about swapping it for a different tool. Creating a "food on table" dependency with Adobe is what's unrealistic.

t0bia_s 4y ago
I'm profesionall freelance artist, with daily usages of Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Premiere, After Effects, Audition and Lightroom. Yes, it literally brings food to my family on table. No, there is no competition if you need compatible project between different programs (dynamic link). After Effects don't have alternative at all. No, Adobe wont work on linux. MacOS is not alternative for Win in term of privacy. And usually overpriced if you need power.
- exodust 4y ago
  > literally brings food It literally doesn't. > I'm profesionall freelance artist Artists shouldn't be tied to brands and products. Artists get shit done using tools they have available. All you've done is list 7 Adobe products, claiming "no competition", no choice but to subscribe to Adobe. The bottom line is you make things for clients: videos, illustrations etc. If Adobe Cloud crashed tomorrow, would you remove your clothes and wander the streets in despair? Crying and begging for food? No. You'd get the job done using other tools. Because you're an Artist, you're resourceful.
  - t0bia_s 4y ago
    "Artists get shit done using tools they have available." Agree. Those are tools named from Adobe, not the only I use. "If Adobe Cloud crashed tomorrow, would you remove your clothes and wander the streets in despair?" If your ISP or power has blackout, would you? "Because you're an Artist, you're resourceful." Also pragmatic. I use tools to get things done faster. Adobe has top notch software developed over decade by payed professionals, with millions of investment. I strongly disagree with their terms of use (no option to work offline is ridiculous), but as you said. Artist are resourceful. It doesn't change anything on fact that I would like to abandon Windows completely and stick with linux.