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You spent your whole comment focusing on their self driving claims while ignoring the rest of the company. The rest of the company? You mean the senior mana

You spent your whole comment focusing on their self driving claims while ignoring the rest of the company. The rest of the company? You mean the senior management that lord elno raided in an attempt to prop up Twitter? The VW ID4 has numerous complaints about their software and reliability. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsb2XBAIWyA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsb2XBAIWyA https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/software-update-bricked-my-car.163623/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/software-update-bric... https://old.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1033by2/warning_2023_model_x_owners_dont_update_to/ https://old.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1033by2/warnin... That's some impressive software.

nebula8804 4y ago
Clearly you are not going to be convinced because you came into this conversation with a conclusion and backtracked from that just like the other poster. That is a common problem when discussing both Tesla and Apple. Both companies evoke a lot of emotion and "foaming at the mouth" type responses. Both companies have continued track records of producing stellar engineering. But for anyone else reading this try to separate your emotion for "lord elno" and just let the engineering speak for itself. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1kHsd3Ocxc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1kHsd3Ocxc [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P-UilAalvE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P-UilAalvE [3]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXpfU6I_T3w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXpfU6I_T3w
- inferiorhuman 4y ago
  just let the engineering speak for itself Is that a reference to the roofs flying off? Or the bumpers falling off? Or the wiper controls that were ruled illegal in Germany? Or the premature motor failures? Maybe the steering wheels that keep falling off? https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/5/21502379/tesla-modely-roof-flies-off-convertible-quality-issue https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/5/21502379/tesla-modely-roo... https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/other/tesla-steering-wheels-keep-falling-off-this-isn-t-a-yoke/ar-AA16XRJq https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/other/tesla-steering-wheels-... https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/bumper-falls-off-in-rain.199855/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/bumper-falls-off-in-... https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1101153_two-thirds-of-earliest-tesla-drive-trains-to-fail-in-60000-miles-owner-data-suggests https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1101153_two-thirds-of-e... https://electrek.co/2020/08/04/tesla-wiper-controls-ruled-illegal-germany-crashed/ https://electrek.co/2020/08/04/tesla-wiper-controls-ruled-il... https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098389_tesla-model-s-door-handle-failures-still-plague-electric-car-as-consumer-reports-learns https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098389_tesla-model-s-d... But for anyone else reading this try to separate your emotion If you'd like to separate your emotion, well, how about the fact that lord elno gutted senior management and is spending most of his time these days babysitting Twitter? Tesla is fast becoming a rudderless entity. They're not well positioned to respond quickly to anything.
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nebula8804 4y ago

Clearly you are not going to be convinced because you came into this conversation with a conclusion and backtracked from that just like the other poster. That is a common problem when discussing both Tesla and Apple. Both companies evoke a lot of emotion and "foaming at the mouth" type responses. Both companies have continued track records of producing stellar engineering. But for anyone else reading this try to separate your emotion for "lord elno" and just let the engineering speak for itself. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1kHsd3Ocxc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1kHsd3Ocxc [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P-UilAalvE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P-UilAalvE [3]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXpfU6I_T3w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXpfU6I_T3w

inferiorhuman 4y ago
just let the engineering speak for itself Is that a reference to the roofs flying off? Or the bumpers falling off? Or the wiper controls that were ruled illegal in Germany? Or the premature motor failures? Maybe the steering wheels that keep falling off? https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/5/21502379/tesla-modely-roof-flies-off-convertible-quality-issue https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/5/21502379/tesla-modely-roo... https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/other/tesla-steering-wheels-keep-falling-off-this-isn-t-a-yoke/ar-AA16XRJq https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/other/tesla-steering-wheels-... https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/bumper-falls-off-in-rain.199855/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/bumper-falls-off-in-... https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1101153_two-thirds-of-earliest-tesla-drive-trains-to-fail-in-60000-miles-owner-data-suggests https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1101153_two-thirds-of-e... https://electrek.co/2020/08/04/tesla-wiper-controls-ruled-illegal-germany-crashed/ https://electrek.co/2020/08/04/tesla-wiper-controls-ruled-il... https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098389_tesla-model-s-door-handle-failures-still-plague-electric-car-as-consumer-reports-learns https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098389_tesla-model-s-d... But for anyone else reading this try to separate your emotion If you'd like to separate your emotion, well, how about the fact that lord elno gutted senior management and is spending most of his time these days babysitting Twitter? Tesla is fast becoming a rudderless entity. They're not well positioned to respond quickly to anything.
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